This site is dedicated to the restoration and preservation of 1960's and '70's Musclecars. I will answer any and all questions about what is original, and what are "Period Correct" modifications. I will also post my personal opinion about what is and is not proper. People are encouraged to debate me or share their own opinions or experiences.
Thursday, April 18, 2013
Still more cars that don't exist.....and more idiots that think they have something valuable....
My last post really riled some people up. There must be a lot of villages missing thier idiots because their all in internet cafe's e-mailing me about their non-existant cars. Here's a few more where comedian Bill Engvall would say-"Here's your sign." ( That says "I'm stupid" if you don't know Engvall's comedy ) # 1. This clown claimed to have a 1976 Z/28 Camaro. In the pictures, it was painted like a '74 Z/28-with the big graphics on the hood. And it had a 350 with a 4-speed-which you could get on a base-model or Rally Sport that year. However-the Z/28 option was killed in the middle of the 1974 model year. There were no 1975 or 76 Z/28's. After seeing the phenomonal success of the Pontiac Firebird Trans-Am-sales doubled or tripled every year from 1973-76-even before "Smokey and the Bandit" was released-the Chevy Brass-realized their colossal mistake-and brought back the Z/28 package in March 1977. This clown had a Rally Sport Camaro, that some previous clown had put Z/28 stripes on. # 2. This guy was a Sports car enthusiast who claimed to have a 1969 Pantera. Here's your sign. The Pantera-if you live in a cave-was a joint DeTomaso / Ford venture that was introduced in 1971. The Pantera was a swoopy, two-seat sports car with a 351 Cleveland mounted mid-engine. It was often called the "Poor man's Lamborghini". They were sold through Lincoln-Mercury dealers for about $10,000 from 1971-75. After 1976-some people imported a few until about 1990. What this clown has is a DeTomaso Mangusta-which is the predecesor of the Pantera. It has a mid-mounted 302 Ford V8, and looks a lot like a Pantera. They were built from 1968-1970. A Mangusta is a cool, rare, car-they were ahead of their time-mid-engine, 4-wheel disc brakes, fully independent suspension-but it is NOT a Pantera. # 3. This clown claimed to have an "Extremely Rare" 302 Chevy powered 1969 Trans-Am. !st off-there were only 697 T/A's built in 1969 and they all had 400 inch Pontiac engines. 2nd-the race cars campaigned by Jerry Titus and Milt Minter had special, one-off 303 inch Pontiac engines, that Herb Adams and other engineers built by de-stroking a 400. These engines were expensive to build, had a lot of one-off exotic parts and were unreliable-they blew up a lot-that's why Titus only won a couple of races from 1969-70 before he was killed at Lime Rock. When Pontiac pulled their support-after DeLorean left-race teams- a lot them privateers-couldn't get parts or replacment engines. The SCCA made an exception and ruled that since the Camaro / Firebird were GM "sister" cars-racers could run the much more prevalant 302 Chevy engines in the Firebird bodies. What this guy did-he told me in his e-mail-he bought an old race car to run at the Monterey Historics. I told him to send the vin to Pontiac Historical services and see if it's a "real" Trans-Am-not a '69 Firebird that someone turned into a race car. If it's one of the 697 T/A's built in 1969-it might be worth restoring. If it's a gussied-up base-model Firebird then I'd leave it a race car. But either way-there was NEVER a 302 Chevy powered Firebird Trans Am built by GM. The 302 was only available in Z/28 Camaros from 1967-69. Here's your sign. Mastermind
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