Monday, June 4, 2012

Can we please stop with the F*&^%ing Chevy LS Motors??!!!

I once made a wise-ass remark to the brass at Petersen Publishing. I said that instead of Hot Rod and Car Craft, and every other mag on the market featuring page after page, month after month, modern fuel injected engines in vintage iron, to Just start another magazine and call it "Modern Fuelie Swap Monthly." This way they can feature these abominations to their heart's content, and the other magazines can continue with tradtional hot rod style coverage. Well, they took my advice and did it. It's called "Engine Swaps" and I still found it offensive for two reasons. I've said it a million times, but I'll say it again. No one cares if want to drop an LS motor and a six-speed automatic into a beater Malibu, or even an Olds Cutlass, or Pontiac Tempest, or one of the millions of  beater 1970-81 Camaros and Firebirds out there. What drives me up the wall is the guy featured in Popular Hot Rodding that did this to a 1 of 458 ever built Lucerne Blue and white, 455HO, 4-speed 1972 Trans-Am.  Or the "For-real, numbers-matching, 4-speed, 1969 SS396 Chevelle". That Hot Rod, besides the LS motor-gutted the interior and installed a roll cage and a 9 inch Ford rear end. ( The stock 12-bolt posi wasn't strong enough? Puhleeze. ) Anyhow, in this "Engine Swaps" current issue we have a clown with way more money than brains that put a modern Chevy LS motor and drivetrain in a Real,numbers-matching 1965 Pontiac GTO CONVERTIBLE!!! I looked up where he bought this high-performance 575hp LS crate motor, and it cost $12,000. Jim Butler performance-one of the leading names in "Real" Pontiac power will build you a 455 Pontiac guaranteed to have 500 hp, and run on 91 octane pump gas for $7,500!!.  If you want to be a real sleeper, if you supply the block and induction system, for the same price, he'll also build you a tri-power 389 that looks bone-stock, but puts out 450 hp-100 more than the factory's 348 hp rating-and is guaranteed to run low 12s in the 1/4 and is warrantied for three years!!!  Now if I was restoring a '65 GTO-that's the way I'd go-instead of spending five grand MORE to bastardize it.  In the same issue-we have a guy that put a new 470 hp, 6.4L SRT8 Hemi in a '70 Challenger. Again-the new SRT8 motor and wiring and everything cost nearly 20 grand! For 14 grand, Mopar Performance sells a complete 426 Hemi crate engine rated at 465 hp, that will basically bolt in, provided you have a B / RB crossmember and motor mounts. Now just about every Mopar freak I know and quite a few GM and Ford guys would sell their souls to indulge their Kowalski fantasies in a 426 Hemi Challenger, but would rather walk barefoot over hot coals or have their fingernails pulled out with pliers than drive a modern fuelie "Bastard".  If I wanted a new fuelie Hemi in a retro Challenger, I'd go down to my local Dodge dealer and buy one!!!  To me-"Hemi Challenger" will always mean a dual-quad 426 inch monster. The one that offended me the most- and I'm not really a Ford guy-was a freaking 6.0 Chevy LS motor stuffed into a Fox-Bodied Mustang. God this makes me sick, and is so wrong, on so many levels. The only worse case was the asshole that put a Toyota Supra Turbo drivetrain in a 1967 Camaro. Anyway, I do not understand the reasoning behind this swap in any way, shape or form. The LS motor doesn't go any faster. I've seen thousands of 5.0 Mustangs either normally aspirated, or with blowers and / or nitrous that run in the 9s or 10s consistently, and reliably. It's not cost-effective. Even if you buy the motor out of a wrecked car or truck in a junkyard, you still have completely re-wire the car, change the transmission, the engine mounts, the trans mount, the driveshaft yoke, and countless other details I can't think of now. Even if you car has a blown engine-It's a lot easier and cheaper to go to a junkyard and get another 5.0 out of a Mustang, T-Bird, Cougar, or Lincoln MKVIILSC, than it is to convert it to LS power, even if your using junkyard parts. I certainly hope you love it, because you just made the car sale proof.  Ford guys  won't touch it with a ten foot pole, Chevy guys don't want it for free, and the uninitiated neophyte that thinks he might want a hot rod is going to ask- "Why would I want a Ford with a Chevy engine in it?" "Isn't that kinda stupid?" I've looked at several issues of this mag-and it's all the same- Chevy LS motors in Datsun Z-cars, in Mazda Rx-7s, in Dodge Darts, for god's sake!!!  I'm glad all you magazine writers think these are the greatest thing since sliced bread. And I agree, they are the wave of the future. If the new stuff was cheap and plentiful, I could understand the hero-worship. But it's not cheap, it's more than triple the price of old stuff.  Right now, you can build an "old-school" small-block Chevy that makes just as much power for about 1/4 the price. Think I'm lying? You can buy a complete, from carburator to oil pan used 350 Chevy from any "U-pull-it" junyard in the nation for $200. Try to buy a running 5.3 / 5.7 / 6.0  or 6.2 engine anywhere for less than $1,500. Then buy the hot-rod parts. be it heads, cam, induction, exhaust, whatever- the LS stuff is substantially more than the old-school stuff. Then you have to do all the electronic wiring. To me, the LS motor is like Kim Kardashian-admittedly hot-but what else does she do that's so great, and why is the public so infatuated with her?  Mastermind               

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    1. Thank you.. putting a f#$%Ing LS engine in a Pontiac is unforgivable!!! long live PONCHO

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    2. Thank you.. putting a f#$%Ing LS engine in a Pontiac is unforgivable!!! long live PONCHO

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    3. Thank you.. putting a f#$%Ing LS engine in a Pontiac is unforgivable!!! long live PONCHO

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    4. Thank you.. putting a f#$%Ing LS engine in a Pontiac is unforgivable!!! long live PONCHO

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  2. I've got 14k in a 6.0 LS turbo motor...that's motor to the rear end, all the best stuff! All new, puts 1,000hp to the ground with ease! 22mpg in my 3900 pound Chevelle, only car I drive! Will put 100,000+ miles on this motor. Hardly race it, just the guys who think 12 seconds is a fast street car. It'll beat anything u or ur buddies have...you'll be a believer. 455ci and a whopping 500hp? 1.1 hp per ci, and what, 10mpg? 11? At 55mph. 22 at 75-80, all day long! Don't race for less than 5k...you'll go out and get an LS motor the next day! Sorry, I go with whatever motor is the most reliable, affordable, and fastest...just happens to be chevy.

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  3. An LS motor is far from a Chevy motor. Not Even Close. The only reason an LS motor can even run like that is because GM took design cues from the 3 superior to Chevy GM engines, Buick, Olds & especially Pontiac. An LS motor shares 0 parts with a Chevy. That is sad people really think it's a Chevy.

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    1. If you're so smart then you should know when they say "CHEVY ENGINE" they actually mean general motors engine. Ls engines were not put in just chevys.They're all branches of general motors and they used the knowledge of they brands to produce to most desired engine of the modern day.

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