If your going to argue....Be sure your comparing "Apples to Apples"...

Got some rants from people who are "Off-Brand" lovers about the superiority of their rides over typical GM, Ford and Mopar offerings that they supported with old magazine road tests. I hate to use the teenage text term "LOL", but I was laughing out loud. Dreamer #1 Cited a 1973 Motor Trend "Ponycar Round-up" where the Javelin AMX was the fastest 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile. Except the Javelin was a 255 hp 401 / 4-speed model with a 3.54:1 Sure-Grip axle-the highest-perfromance model of the line. The Camaro was a Type LT with a 165hp 2bbl 350 with an automatic and 2.73:1 gears. The Firebird was an Esprit with a 150 hp 2bbl 350 and an automatic and 3.08;1 gears, and the Mustang was a Grande with a 177 hp 2bbl 351and an automatic with 2.80:1 gears. Now, if the Camaro had been a Z/28 with the 250 hp L82, a 4-speed and 3.73:1 gears, the results would have been much different. Ditto if the Mustang had been a 266 hp 351CJ with a 4-speed and 3.50:1 gears. And Toss out the 310 hp SD 455 Trans-Am ( only 252 were built ) if the Pontiac had been a standard 250 hp L75 455 T/A with either a 4-speed or a TH400 and 3.42:1 gears, OR even a 230 hp L78 Formula 400 with a 4-speed and 3.42:1 gears, the Javelin would have finished dead last as all of those Top-of-the-Line models tested by other mags recorded quicker 0-60 and 1/4 mile times than the AMX. Motor Trend apologized in the article saying the lesser GM and Ford offerings were all that was available from the factories test fleets, and alluded to the fact the results would have been very different had they all been premium models. Dreamer #2 cited a 1969 Road Test where a GS400 Buick Skylark was faster in the 1/4 than a GTO and an SS396 Chevelle. Except he didn't take into account the fact that the Buick was a Stage 1 model with a 4-speed and 4.30:1 gears,while the GTO was a standard 350 hp model with a 3-speed stick and 3.36:1 gears, and the Chevelle was a 325 hp automatic with 3.31:1 gears. Again-if the GTO had been a Ram Air IV with a 4-speed and 4.33:1 gears, or if the Chevelle had been a solid-lifter L78 model with a 4-speed and 4.11:1 gears the Buick would have finished dead last. Dreamer #3 was another AMC lover. He cited a 1972 Muscle Car comparo as totally biased because the Chevelle SS was a 454, the GTO was a 455HO, and the Dodge Charger was a 440 Magnum, while the Javelin AMX had a 401. He whined-"Of course a 440 Charger or a 454 Chevelle or a 455 GTO can beat a 401 Javelin in a drag race." That's not fair at all". He failed to note that the Javelin DID beat both the 429 Torino and the 455 Olds Cutlass in the 1/4 in the same test, and he failed to note that unlike the Motor Trend debacle-Cars magazine went out of their way to make sure every car was the top performance optioned model. In fact-There was also an LT-1 350 Z/28 Camaro, and a 351HO Mustang Mach 1 tested-and a 340 'Cuda tested-and ALL THREE of those cars beat the Javelin, the Torino and the Cutlass in the drag race. So it was about as fair as it could be. He also failed to note that the writer stated that the 429 in the Torino was rated at only 205 hp and was basically a "Station Wagon" engine, and that Ford said the 266 hp 351CJ would have been their top choice for getting maximum performance out of a Torino, and that the Olds rep was upset that a W30 455 442 with a 4-speed or a TH400 and 3.42:1 gears wasn't available, that they only had Cutlass S with the "Station Wagon" base 455 and 2.73:1 gears. Dreamer #4 was Ford guy who was pissed about a couple of early '90s Ford vs Chevy performance comparos-saying the results weren't fair and the writers were pro-GM. His gripe was the one test featured a 5-speed 5.0 Mustang against an automatic L98 IROC-Z. His contention was of course the Camaro was faster as it had 350 cubes versus the Mustang's 302. He said they should have used a 305 / 5-speed model. Again he's not grasping-the magazine got the top performance package for each model. He had the same gripe about a "Muscle Truck" comparo-saying it wasn't fair that the SS454 Chevy was quicker than the 351 engined Ford Ligtning pickup. Again-that was the top option for each model. GM guys didn't gripe back in the '70's when Trans-Ams had 400 or 455 cubes under the hood and all you could get in a Z/28 or a Corvette was a 350. Get over yourselves guys, you may love your cars, but sorry their was bigger, badder stuff offered by other manufacturers. Live with it. Mastermind