Can't find the Chevy of your dreams? Consider a Pontiac...

If your having trouble finding the Chevrolet Musclecar of your dreams, you might want to consider a Pontiac. Yes, I know a GTO brings every bit the King's Ransom that a big-block Chevelle does. But that aside the entire rest of the line-the Pontiac models are much better buys than the Chevys. Here's why. #1. Full-size models. While 99% of Impalas built from 1960-69 have six-cylinder or 283 or 327 small-block motivation-that's why 396 / 409 / 427 models are priced in the stratosphere-every single Pontiac Catalina, Bonneville, or Gran Prix built from 1960-68 had at least 389 cubes under the hood. Depending on year some had 400, 421 or 428s under those long hoods! And the Pontiacs usually had upgraded interiors with bucket seats and consoles and cool options like factory air, and 8-lug wheels. There's a million ways to build power into a Pontiac V8, and any suspension or brake upgrades that fit an Impala will fit these cars. #2. 1969-76 Pontiac Gran Prix. The GP is to the Monte Carlo what the Firebird is to the Camaro. The better buy of the two. While 99% of Monte Carlos built from 1970-75 have 350 small-blocks for power, GPs had 400 cubes standard all years and their are quite a few 455 powered "SJ" models out there. My sister had a '72 GP in high school. It had power everything, and it felt like a GTO. She showed her taillights to many a shocked Camaro and Mustang driver. # 3. Firebirds. You could only get a Rat motor in a Camaro until 1972-and those are rare. By contrast you could get a 455 in a Trans-Am until 1976 and a 400 in a T/A or Formula until 1979.  If you can't find a good deal on a 400 Firebird, you aren't looking past the end of your nose. And you don't have to get a Trans-Am. There's thousands of Esprit and Formula Firebirds built from 1970-78 with 400 cubes under the hood.   # 4. Mid-size models. Again 99% of non-SS Chevelles are small-block models. By contrast-their are quite a few Tempest, LeMans, LeMans Sport and Luxury LeMans models built from 1968-77 with 400 or even 455 cubes under the hood. And don't forget the '73-75 Grand Am models. 400 cubes standard all years with 455 optional. Any suspension or brake upgrades that fit a Chevelle fit these cars. So if you can't find a Rat-powered Chevy for a reasonable price-consider a Pontiac. You may be pleasantly surprised. Mastermind  

Oddballs from the '80's and '90's that can be a bargain hot rod or fun cruiser....

Some times you run across a weird combination of options that was only available for one year that everyone snubs-but can be a cool cruiser or hot rod for low bucks. Here's a list of good buys that a lot of people don't think of. # 1. 1982 Mustang GT / Mercury Capri "5.0". These had a 302 V8 with a 2bbl carb and "only" 157 hp backed by a 4-speed stick or a 3-speed automatic. Their snubbed in favor of the 4bbl / 5-speed stick / 4-speed auto '83-86 models. However-they can bought dirt-cheap, and there's a million ways to build power into a small-block Ford.  # 2. 1983 Z/28 Camaro / Firebird Trans-Am. For this one year only you could get a "Cross-Fire Injected" 305 and a 4-speed automatic. ( 1982 models had a 3-speed TH250 ). Their snubbed in favor of the L69 Carburated / 5-speed models and later LB9 Tuned Port Injection models but they actually moved pretty good for only being a 305. The upside is with 454 throttle bodies and a Hypertech Prom chip this system can feed up to 450 hp and would work on a stout 350 or 383.  # 3. 1982 Corvette. This is the last of the C3 body with the first of the Cross-Fire Injected 350 and 4-speed automatic of the C4 'Vette. They were decent performers for the time-7 second 0-60 times, and 15 second 1/4 mile times-and they can be hopped up easily. # 4. 1984 Corvette. These had the "Cross-Fire" injected 350 and a 4-speed automatic or the 4+3 overdrive manual. Their snubbed by 'Vette collectors for the '85-91 "Tuned Port Injected" models, but they ran pretty damn good-six second 0-60 times and high 14 second 1/4 mile times and they can be hopped up easily. I have seen these as low as $3995 on used car lots. Corvette and Cheap aren't usually synominous-but here they are. # 5 1984-86 Ford Mustang SVO. These had 16" wheels, Recaro seats, and a 4-cylinder Turbo engine with between 175 and 205 hp. The problem was the "5.0" V8 models were both faster and several thousand cheaper. However-now you can buy them relatively cheap. # 6. 1994-95 Mustang GT. For these two years you could get the "New" for '94 Mustang body with the "Old-school" "5.0" V8. '96 and later models had the 4.6 that didn't have as much power regardless of hp ratings. Maybe you'll find a diamond in the rough. Mastermind    

No, you don't have the right to desecrate a rare classic.....Leave them for those of us who want them the way their supposed to be!!

Got a lot of flack from people after the last post-saying "Its my car and I'll Goddamn well do anything I want with it." Yes, that's your Constitutional right. The government hasn't figured out how to legislate away people's God-given right to be assholes. But think about how selfish these people are. Here's a few examples of people who should have been dragged out into the street and shot. # 1. This guy-I won't use his name-but I remember it well-is the King Kong of Assholes who destroy classic cars. He bought a pristine, restored, show-winning Fuel-Injected 1963 Split-Window Corvette for something like $30,000 in 1988 dollars. Then he gutted it and put a roll cage in it, a narrowed 9 inch Ford rear end with huge slicks, and replaced the FI 327 / 4-speed powertrain with a Tunnel-Rammed 454 and a TH400 with a 5,000 rpm converter and a trans-brake. Blaspemy most foul!!!  If he wanted to "Pro Street" a Corvette-he couldn't buy one of the millions of '68-82 models that no one cares about and cut that up. If he had to have the early '60's bodystyle-there was a Kit Car company that was selling Gran Sport 1964 Corvette replica bodies-that could be transplanted onto the later C3 chassis. Or he could have bought any basket-case '64-67 'Vette out there and bastrdized that and no one would have cared. But no,you have to pick the rarest, most valuable Corvette ever built-( unless one of the 116 1969 L88 owners wants to argue ) and cut it to pieces.  # 2. This guy should actually be # 1A" instead of number 2.  He managed to mortally offend both the musclecar crowd and the Import tuner crowd. How did he accomplish this?  By destroying not one, but two valued classics!! This genius took the engine and drivetrain out of '98 Toyota Turbo Supra and put it in a '67 Camaro. He was genuinely surprised when everyone called for his beheading. The '90's Toyota Supras are as sacred with the Import Tuner drift crowd as, well-a '67 Camaro is to the musclecar crowd!!  Why would you think this is a good Idea in any way, shape or form?  # 3. This clown offended both GM and Ford guys by putting a 389 Pontiac V8 into his 1957 T-Bird. Yes, I'm sure it was quite a bit faster than the 292 / 312 Y-Block it came with. But couldn't he have just swapped in a later model 289 / 302 or 351W or even a 390 Ford?  Who wants a classic T-Bird with a Pontiac engine in it???  # 4. This moron was on the cover of not one, but two magazines. He bought a show-quality one of 458 455HO / 4-speed 1972 Trans-Ams ever built. Then he gutted it and put an LS motor and a six-speed automatic in it and extensively modified the interior and the body and the suspension. He couldn't buy one of the 275,000 T/As built from 1977-79 alone and fuck that up? Or any of the millions of beater '70-81 Camaros and Firebirds out there that no one cares about and use that? Hell, why use one of the 1,286 '72 models built-why didn't he get one of 88 1970 RAIV models and butcher that??  Not!!!  # 5. This clown is worse because like #2-he destroyed two classics instead of one. He put a Superhcharged 5.4 Mod motor and six-speed tranny out of a 2007 GT500 and put it in-wait for it-A 1969 Boss 302!!!  Not one of the 70,000 plus fastback Mustangs that Ford sold in 1969 made to look like one-no this was a for-real one of 1,603-Boss 302s ever built!!!  Now no one with common sense is going to say that they agree that any of these projects was the right thing to do. And this rule applies to old and new classics as well-if you want to yank the 231 Buick V6 or 307 Olds V8 and put a 572 inch Chevy Rat motor into a black '81-87 Buick Regal no one cares. But don't do it to a pristine '85-87 Grand National!!  You want to put a modern 5.0 Coyote and a six-speed into one of the 400,000 plus '66 Mustangs built, no one cares-but don't do it to a GT350H!!!  Are we clear on my position now?? Mastermind                  

 

No I didn't....Or to Quote the dictator from "Team America" "Why is everybody so F$%*ing Stupid??!!!

I was absent-mindedly chatting with an acquaintance the other day and said that I'd like to build a real low-budget "Rat Rod." That maybe I'd find an old Maverick and get the "5.0" engine and T5 tranny and 8.8 rear out of a wrecked '87-93 Mustang and make a nice, cheap hot rod. Maybe even put a blower on it and make it real quick. He instantly went ballistic. "You hypocrite!" "Your constantly railing on your site about the assholes who put LS motors in classic GM iron and modern Hemis in classic Mopars and you come up with that?"  Excuse me?  How is putting the engine, tranny and rear axle out of say-a wrecked '89 Mustang that no one gives a shit about, into say- a '74 Maverick that no one gives a shit about-the same as putting an LS motor and a 4L80E into a one of 1,286, numbers-matching, 1972 455HO Trans-Am? Like Samuel L. Jackson told John Travolta about the difference between giving a woman a foot massage and performing oral sex on her-"It's not the same ballpark; it's not even the same fuckin' sport!"  Yes-I have screamed until I am blue in the face-It turns my stomach every time I read about some asshole who puts an LS Motor and a six-speed into a one of 3,797 1970 GTO Judges. Now if he did it to one of the 200,000 plus beater LeMans / Tempest models that Pontiac produced in 1968 alone-I wouldn't give a shit. Nor would I care if someone put a 720 hp 572 inch GMPP Rat Motor backed by a trans-braked TH400 and a narrowed 9 inch Ford rear with wheel tubs and 33 inch slicks to complete the "Pro Street" look into one of the 400,000 '78 Camaros that Chevrolet built. Now if he did it to one of the 2,200 LT1 powered 1972 Z/28's ever built-I'd want him drawn and quartered and his entrails cut out and burned. See the difference? If I proposed putting the 5.0 / T5 / 8.8 powertrain into a 4-speed, "Q" code '73 Mach 1 or a "K" code '66 Mustang GT-yes you would be justified in wanting to storm my house with torches. But taking the guts out of one of the millions of '87-93 Fox Mustangs and stuffing it in one of the millions of '70-'77 Maverick / Comet beaters languishing in junkyards or in people driveways-Does anybody really give a shit in hell??   That's the difference. Taking a 360 Magnum out of a wrecked '97 Jeep Cherokee and stuffing it in a '75 Duster is not the same as taking an SRT8 Hemi out of a 2011 Charger and putting it in numbers-matching, for real  440 / '69 GTX!!!  Taking the Supercharged 3.8 V6 out of a 2000 Bonneville SSEI and putting it in a beater 1981 301 "Turbo" Trans-Am is not the same as putting it in a Tri-Power, 4-speed, '65 GTO!!!   Is everyone clear on that?  Mastermind              

How about a contest...To build "Project Badass" of 1968...Both Small-Block and Big Block....

Had a great Idea the other day. Maybe we can get one of the buff magazines to sponsor it and run articles on it. Everyone has spoken ad nauseum how sick they are of '69 Camaros with LS motors and 20 inch wheels etc. I was thinking what if a group of people got together to build several street machines like you would have in say-1968-the height of the musclecar movement. Everything would have to be period correct-no modern fuelie engines, no MSD ignitions etc. I'd have two classes-one big-block and one small-block. For big block cars I'd say limit cubic inches to 400. This would save money-we don't need $15,000 crate Hemis or stroker Rat Motors-that stuff wasn't available in 1968. You could run a 396 Chevy, a 383 Mopar, a 400 Pontiac, and a 390 Ford, or maybe even a 400 Olds if someone wanted to play with one. Feasible swaps would be allowed-i.e a 383 into a Dart or a 396 into a Nova. Cross-breeding would be allowed-a 400 Olds in a Buick Skylark body for example-or a 400 Pontiac in a '66 El Camino. You could run any compression ratio or any cam ( no hydraulic rollers-not invented yet, remember? ) or any induction-but it would have to be period-correct. For example you could run a P65 Edelbrock Dual-Quad manifold on a Pontiac-but not a Performer RPM or Factory RAIV piece-they weren't invented yet. This also means no aftermarket aluminum heads-they weren't invented yet. Iron heads and period correct parts would keep the costs down and the competition firece. The same goes for trannys. You could run a 4-speed or a TH400 or a Powerglide in GM stuff, a 4-speed or a 727 Torqueflite in Mopar stuff, and a 4-speed or a C4 or C6 in Ford stuff. No five or six-speed sticks, no 700R4's or 4L80E's. For small-block cars we could limit cubes to 350. And I mean 350-no stroker kits to build a 427-they weren't available yet! However-I have seen some fierce 289 Falcons and Comets that surprised a lot of big-block cars. I've seen some badass 327 Novas. I have seen really quick 273 Valiants and 340 Barracudas. Engine swapping and cross-breeding would be allowed here. A '64 Buick Skylark would run a lot stronger with a W31-spec 350 Olds under the hood than it ever would with the obsolete 300 inch Buick V8 it came with-and that's a swap some enterprising hot-rodder may have done back in the day. Or a small-block Chevy into a Studebaker.  Exotic stuff-for the time period-but still correct- would be allowed-Paxton Superchargers and 4-Weber setups for small-block Chevys and Fords. How about a Factory Five Cobra replica with a 4-Weber carbed 289 Ford? I think it would be way cool and would take some talent on the part of the builders to make the fastest car-not just who could write the biggest check. If you agree sound off-and write the buff magazines as well and tell them to check this site. Mastermind.  

How about some early '70's Pro Stock compact tributes?.....

In 1972 Bill "Grumpy" Jenkins blew everyone away at the Winternationals when he upset the dominating Chrysler Hemi 'Cuda of Sox&Martin with his 327 powered Vega. Through out the '70's and early '80's V8 Vegas were very popular-my dad and I built one when I was in high school. Other drag racers followed Jenkins lead-Bob Glidden had a wicked 351 Cleveland powered Pinto that won a bunch of races. V8 Pintos weren't quite as popular-but they were out there, and were actually easier to build than the Vegas-they required less fabrication.  I dated a girl who had a 289 Pinto that was a rocket. Other guys didn't use the subcompacts-but they went the compact route. Sox&Martin had a Duster and "Dyno" Don Nicholson had a Maverick that won a bunch of races in the early '70's. The reason I bring it up is I was looking through a magazine and they had a "40 years ago today.." article that had pictures of a lot of these cars. It got me thinking-nobody's fighting with machetes for old Mavericks or Pintos, Vegas or Dusters-( unlike Camaros and Firebirds, Mustangs and 'Cuda / Challengers ). So you could build one really cheap. A Maverick rear end will bolt right into a Pinto / Mustang II and will handle up to 400 or so hp, as will a C4 automatic. So if you build a hot 302 combo your covered. A V8 Monza rear will bolt right in a Vega. 8 3/4 rears are easy enough to find for a Dart / Duster. An besides the possibility of building a hot 360 Magnum stroker, Mopar Performance makes crossmembers to install a 383 / 400 / 440 / Hemi.  Other possibilities are other GM "X" bodies. Any Pontiac Ventura with a 350 Pontiac can accept a 400 / 455 as a bolt-in swap. Any Olds Omega with a 350 can accept a 403 as a bolt-in swap and 53 extra cubes definitely helps-all other things being equal. Radiused fenderwells, missing front bumpers, primer finishes, loud exhaust- these cars can be Jules' Wallet from Pulp Fictiion- a bad mofo-because no one cares about them to begin with. Others would be late 70's or early '80's Ford Fairmonts, late '70's Dodge Aspens and Plymouth Volares. Cheap Modern day "Rat Rods."  Mastermind
 

The car is 45+ years old and it's not completely original? Shouldn't have to explain,but here's why....

Got some flack over the last post from the type of people I hate. The type that turn up their nose at a great car because it has aftermarket wheels on it or a different carburator or gasp!-a non original engine. What these idiots don't realize is first off-the car is 40 or 50 years old. Secondly-these were cars that people drove to work and raced and wrecked and abused, just like to you do your Chevy truck or whatever it is you have for a daily driver. Since '60's and '70's cars didn't have all the electronic dreck that they have now-a lot of guys worked on their own car. Some still do. If you had a 2011 Mustang GT right now-and it blew a radiator hose on Friday night would you go to Autozone and get a replacement or would you park the car until Monday when the dealer opened so you could get a "Genuine" Motorcraft hose and clamps? If you bought that same Mustang new-would you keep it "Just as it left the factory" until you sold it?  No-chances are you might put a Flowmaster exhaust on it, a K&N Air filter, some aftermarket wheels, maybe even a performance prom chip or a Hurst shifter. That's what guys did 40 years ago. And think about this-when I was in high school in 1978-a friend had a 440 Six-Pack '69 Super Bee. It was only 9 years old. That would be like having a 2006 Hemi Charger now. One night he missed a shift and grenaded the engine. I mean, rods out the side of the block grenaded. What did we do? We went to a junkyard and got a used 440 out of wrecked Chrysler Imperial for $250. And the only reason he did that instead of taking a FREE 383 from a buddy was he wanted to keep the Tri-Power on it and "B" and "RB" intakes don't interchange. The car ran great-it seemed as fast as it ever was-and when he sold it five years later-doubtless the person who bought it was miffed that the engine wasn't numbers-matching. I had a '68 SS396 El Camino and the 396 blew up one night. My cousin gave me a 327 out of my aunt's wrecked '67 Impala. The 327 actually made it a nicer car-it handled better with less weight on the front end and it was still pretty quick-but it didn't fry the tires at the slightest touch of throttle like the Rat motor did. This happened a lot to a lot of people. Think about this. Your a working class, do-it-yourself kind of guy. It's 1977. Your '72 Chevelle SS454 is long out of warranty-but it's still a nice, fairly new car and you love it. One day on the freeway it throws a rod. You can't afford to pay a professional shop to rebuild it so you go to a junkyard and get a used 454 out of a '74 Impala wagon and install it over the weekend, so you can drive to work Monday morning. In 1980 you get married and your new wife has twins. The musclecar has to go for a family sedan. Again-did the guy you sold it to grind you on the price because it wasn't "Completely Orignal?" Probably not-because back then no one except us hardcore gear heads cared about musclecars. To everyone else they were just old gas-guzzlers. That was before the craziness started-I.E.-people paying a million dollars for Hemi 'Cudas. So if you look at a nice '69 GTO and it's got a 400 out of a '73 Catalina I wouldn't be surprised. And if it was otherwise nice and rust-free and the price was reasonable-why not buy it? Honestly-one Pontiac 400 is as good as another-unless your looking at Ram Air IV Judge-yes then I would definitely want the original engine. Ditto for a '69 Z/28-if I'm going to pay top dollar for it it damn well better have a "DZ" code 302 in it. But If I'm buying one of the 243,000 '69 Camaros that AREN'T Z/28s and came originally with a garden-variety L48 350-is it a deal breaker that a previous owner put a GM "Targetmaster" replacement 350 in it in 1981??  If your looking at one of the 1,603 '69 Boss 302 Mustangs-yes you absolutely need the "Boss" engine. But if your looking at one of the 70,000 plus '69 Mach 1s that had a garden-variety 351W to begin with-is it catastrophic that the car has a 351W out of a '73 Mercury Montego?  No. See what I'm saying?  I can see wanting a numbers-matching engine-if it's something special-an LS6 454, a W30 Olds 455,an RAIV Pontiac,a 340 Six-Pack , Boss 351, etc,etc-but if the original engine was garden variety-like a 300 hp L48 350 in a '70 Camaro or an L78 400 in a '70 Firebird Formula 400-I mean the same engines could be had in a Malibu or Impala or a Catalina or LeMans station wagon-for god's sake-does it really matter that much that it's not numbers-matching?  In my mind it doesn't. What really irks me about these people-is they'll pull this shit over a carburator or a distributor. Really?  Do you really expect a 45 year old carburator to work flawlessly?  This is why the Pure Stock drags, MusclePalooza, and many Concours show organizations have amended the rules to include "Original Type." In other words- your '71 Z/28 is legal if it has a 3310 Holley 4bbl on it. It doesn't have to have 1970 or 71 date codes. Your '57 Corvette is legal with a late-model T10 4-speed trans. It doesn't have to have 1957 date codes!!!  I hope this clears some things up. But probably not. However-I swear the next time someone says a pristine SS396 Chevelle is "Ruined" because it has radial tires, a Hurst shifter ( instead of the horrible Muncie ) and an HEI distributor-I'm going to kick him in the nuts so hard he'll have to part his hair differently!!  Mastermind    

The "Cult" of serial numbers......I just don't get it.....

I was talking with a guy the other day who was lamenting how nowadays average guys could never afford an ultra-cool musclecar. I begged to differ-"Now it's easier than ever-if your mechanically inclined and want to build it."  "For example-$5,000 will buy you a nice "little old lady" 318 '68-70 Dodge Dart in any state in the union." "Mopar Performance sells the crossmembers to put B / RB / Hemis in Duster / Darts." They also sell the 465 hp 426 Hemi crate motor for $15,000." "You'd have to chase down some other parts-a 727 tranny, a bigger radiator, etc-but you could do it for under 25K."  "You can't touch a "real" "original" Hemi Dart for under 100K." "Same deal-$10,000 will buy you a very nice small-block '70-'73 Camaro." "GMPP sells 440 hp 454HO crate engines for $5995." "With the right torque converter, shift kit, and cooler-a TH350 can stand up to 500 hp-so you won't even have to change trannys." "Cragar mags and Lakewood traction bars are available through Summitt, and it'd be pretty easy to copy the Baldwin-Motion paint job." For 20K you have a unique, badass looking and running car." "You cant touch a "Real" Motion car for under $50K." "You just did it for less than half that." "$15,000 will buy you a nice, restored '65-68 289 Mustang Fastback in any state in the union." "Tony Branda and other companies sell the taillights, hood and side scoops,reproduction wheels etc." "They even sell Tri-Y headers and reproduction Shelby intakes and 715 cfm Holleys." "Or you could buy a 345 hp 302 Ford SVT crate engine." "For under 30 grand you'd have a badass GT350 or GT350H clone."  "You can't touch a "real" Shelby for under 100K." "You got it for less than 1/3."  The guy says-"You just said it-it's not real." "What's not real?" I asked. "When your smoking the tires for 200 feet and banging through the gears or blasting down the 1/4 are you thinking about serial numbers?" "When you pass someone on the freeway at 75 mph-is the guy in the other car going to turn up his nose and tell his passenger-"That's a fake." "How would he tell without checking serial numbers?"  "The upside is you'd drive it like it was meant to be driven and actually have some fun with it." "If you'd spent 100 grand on it you'd be so goddamnded afraid of wrecking it or blowing it up that it would never see the high side of 3,000 rpm or 60 mph." "It still isn't the real deal." He protested. "Yeah but only you know that-unless you tell everybody or let people check your vin number." "The guy who won the Pure Stock drags last year did it in an L88 Corvette."  "Except it's not a "real" L88." "The rules say you can run any combination that was an option that year." "So you could put a crate Hemi in a 383 '71 Road Runner and race it because the Hemi was an option in '71." "Anyhow- since the L88 was an option in 1969-this guy took his garden-variety 390 hp 427 'Vette and rebuilt the motor to L88 specs." "When he's ripping off blistering 11.54 1/4 mile times at more than 120 mph- and winning the tournament and getting his picture in Hot Rod or Musclecar Review-do you think he says-"Damn! This is cool, but it would be so much more fun if this car was numbers-matching."  "Puhleeze." "You don't understand." the guy said. I had to agree-I really don't. I've said it before-I don't buy anything-a house, car, motorcycle,jet-ski, guns,sports memorabila etc-with the primary deciding factor being what it will be worth if or when I decide to get rid of it!!  If I like it-I don't care what it costs-If I don't like it, you can't give it to me for free-no matter how great a "Deal" it is. I've said this before and I'll say it again-Did you marry your wife because you thought she'd give you an easier divorce than the other women you dated? The average Joe CAN have an ultra-cool car-like an L88 spec Corvette or an RAIV spec GTO ( with Edelbrock's help ) or a Thunderbolt Fairlane ( with a pumped up 390, not a 427 but all "FE engines look externally identical-duh ) or a Boss 302 Mustang or whatever-if you have a little ingenuity and can get over the "It's not numbers-matching" fetish. I'd like to find a disco-era T/A and put a snarling Edelbrock headed 455 in it backed by a Richmond 5-speed. If I get the stencils from Phoenix Graphics and paint it like a "Macho T/A" I don't think Dennis Mecham is going to sue me. And when I'm blowing the doors off a little boy in a rice-rocket or an old man in a new Corvette with a big smile on my face-I won't be thinking about how my car isn't "Original!!!"  Think people just how important are those little numbers on the cowl??  Are they worth an extra $20,30 or $50,000 or even $100,000??  If they are-then you have a much larger bank account and a much smaller brain than I do. Mastermind                

Project "Heavy Metal" redux...

A few years ago Car Craft built a 1965 Impala with a fuel-injected mega-inch Rat Motor,upgraded suspension and brakes and called it "Project Heavy Metal."  It was wildly popular with readers; unfortunately the car was stolen and never recovered.  I have some Ideas for a similar project that I think would be very cool and could be built relatively cheaply. Maybe if enough people write to Popular Hot Rodding or Hot Rod-maybe they'll serialize the build in the magazines. Anyhow here's the Ideas. # 1. 1965-66 Pontiac Catalina / Bonneville / Gran Prix. These cars had gorgeous styling, cool interiors and at least 389 cubes under their long hoods. You could easily adapt front disc brakes with spindles from a later model-or just buy an aftermarket kit-anything that fits an Impala will fit these cars. Ditto for suspension-Pontiac built ambulances and hearses in the '60's-the wrist-thick sway bars and heavier springs from one of those would work-or again just get aftermarket pieces for an Impala. That's the beauty of '60s and '70s GM stuff-almost everything interchanges. I see one with a snarling 467 inch Pontiac with either 3-2bbls or 2-4bbls backed by a 4-speed or the ubiquitous TH400 with a Gear Vendors overdrive, and 16" or 17" Torq-Thrusts with modern Z-rated rubber.  # 2. 1967-69 Olds Delta 88 Coupe. These cars have cool fastback styling, sumptuous interiors and 425 or 455 cubes under the hood. Some of these even have factory front disc brakes. You could go two ways-a Pro-Touring style "G" machine-or a '60's drag-racing "Gasser" tribute-remove that big front bumper, radius the wheel wells for monster slicks or drag radials. Their long wheelbase and excellent weight distribution would actually make them a good drag racer.  # 3. 1966-69 Buick Riviera. These cars have the swoopy styling of the Olds Toronado but are still rear-wheel drive. With 430 cubes under the long hoods, they move pretty good too. I see one jet-black with either a pumped-up 455 Pontiac-( the BOP TH400 would bolt right up ) or a snarling 572 Rat Motor-( all you'd need is some Chevy motor mounts and a Chevy bolt-pattern TH400 ). Some people may frown on the prospect of cross-breeding-but like it or not the reality is there's way more speed equipment for Chevys, Olds and Pontiac motors than there are for Buicks. I'm looking at the bang-for-the buck factor here. And it's not like your "ruining" a '70 GSX-no one cares about old Rivieras anyway.  # 4. 1965-67 Ford Galaxie. These cars have the racy "Coke Bottle" flanks very much like the '65 Pontiacs-and most have 390 cubes under the hood. Edelbrock claims 452 hp with their "Performer RPM" dual-quad package. It would not only look and sound badass-it would be. Magazine writers spew numbers flippantly-but 450 honest hp will turn any street car into a rocket. Just a thought. Mastermind  

Good advice for 1st time restorers......

One of the cable channels has a show called "Property Virgins" where pros help first-time homebuyers get the best deal and avoid costly mistakes. Maybe there should be one for classic car buyers. Anyhow here's how to avoid spending unnecessary money and causing your self untold grief that you don't need.  # 1. This should be a no-brainer, but you'd be surprised at the people that fall into this trap. Make sure the car has a clear title. No matter how cheap it is, a car without a title is not a deal. Something that you can't legally register or sell is a nightmare. I bought my 442 off a used car lot, registered it, and drove it for 18 years on sunny days and during Hot August Nights. When I decided to sell it I couldn't find the title. No problem-I'll just call DMV and get a duplicate, right? Wrong. Because a DMV clerk transposed 2 numbers on the VIN when I registered it initially 18 years ago-they wouldn't give me another title-even though I had registered and insured the car for 18 years!!  It took me nearly two years and several hundred dollars in lawyer fees to get a title for a car I legally owned for 18 years!!  God help me if the car come from a junkyard or had a salvage title.  # 2. A "Basket Case" is not a deal no matter how low the price is. Even if you are a professional mechanic or bodyman by trade-a car with major body or rust issues, frame damage, water damage, fire damage etc-is a nightmare and a money pit. 99.999% of the time your better off spending more money and getting a better car to start with.  # 3. A rare or special car missing key components is not a deal at any price. Obvious examples would be a Chrysler Hemi car without the Hemi engine or a Boss 302 or 429 Mustang without the "Boss" engines. The cost of finding an engine and all the accesorries would be so prohibitive-that even if you had Donald Trump's bank account-you'd be financially ahead of the game by just finding a complete car and buying that. Others would be '57-65 Fuel Injected Corvettes or a '57 Pontiac Bonneville without the Fuel Injection system-If you can find a complete Rochester Fuel Injection setup for a '63 Corvette-how high in the stratosphere do you think it will be priced?  Again-you might be better off just getting a more complete car. # 4. Get the options you want, even if you have to pay a little more for it. For example-if you want an SS396 Chevelle with a 4-speed-then search until you find one. Don't buy a small-block Malibu with an automatic because "Its a deal" and then think you'll "convert" it later. You won't, and it'll cost too much in time and money. The same goes for front disc brakes, or power steering or air conditioning. It's much easier and  more cost-effective to just find a car that has that already on it than it is to add it later. # 5. Consider different models or sisters / cousins of the same car. I'd much rather have a 400, 4-speed, T-Topped '77 Firebird Formula than a '79 403 Olds / TH350 Trans-Am. If you a Mopar fan-don't pass up a reasonably priced, pristine Super Bee because your looking for a Charger. I'd rather have a loaded 390 powered '68 Cougar than a strippy 289 '68 Mustang. You may not be able to afford an L88 427 Corvette, but you might find a deal on a 390 hp L72 version. See what I'm saying?  # 6. Stay away from "Freaks." By this I mean cars with weird options. Two-speed automatics,three-speed sticks, column-shifted bucket seat cars, two-barrel step-down engines,etc- aren't collectible-their just weird. I mean do you really want a "Turnpike Special" '68 GTO with a 265 hp 2bbl  400 V8, an automatic and 2.56:1 gears that can't outrun a V6 Camry from a light?  Or a 427 Corvette with a Powerglide 2-speed automatic?  Hope these tips will save somebody some money and aggravation. Mastermind
           

The Path of Most Resistance....Part 2.....

  Had a few more people come up with very hard project ideas after the last post that were disappointed because I told them their ideas weren't cost-effective. Just because something is POSSIBLE doesn't mean it's a good idea or financially feasible. I mean they were genuinely offended. Angry man # 1. Asked about Turbocharging a mid -'80s Camaro or Firebird. I said if he wanted a Turbo Firebird to look for an '89 20th Anniversary Trans Am. They came stock with the badass Turbo V6 out of the Buick Grand National. They were both faster and handled better than the LB9 305 and L98 350 Chevy V8s. He didn't like that idea. He wanted to Turbo his LG4 305 V8. I said that Turbos were not only expensive-they did not work well with carburators and they really didn't work with '80's electronically controlled carburators. I pointed out that the ill-fated '80-'81 Turbo Trans-Ams were dogs as were the carburated 231 V6s in Buick Regal T-Types through '84.  The '85-88 Grand Nationals kicked ass-because they had Multi-Port Fuel Injection and knock sensors. If he had to have forced induction I suggested he find a wrecked GN and salvage the engine, tranny and wiring harness. I also suggested he might try to find a Supercharged 3.8 V6 out of a '90's Bonneville SSEI or Buick Riviera. They had 240 hp stock-about 100 more than his LG4 305- and could easily get 100 more than that with a pulley change. The 700R4 in his car would probably have the multi-fit GM bellhousing so he more than likely wouldn't have to change trannys for this. I also suggested a Weiand or B&M underhood Roots-Type Blower-that would add about 175 hp to his 305, although he'd have trouble making it smog in some states. He didn't like any of those ideas. He wanted a to Turbocharge a small-block Chevy. I said again-that trying to Turbocharge a carburated 305 or 350 would be hard to do, expensive to build, and probably wouldn't run as strong a a normally-aspirated 400 hp or 450 hp GMPP ZZ5 or ZZ383 crate motor. If he HAD to have a Turbo V8-I said he'd be better off going to a junkyard and getting the engine, transmission and wiring harness out of a Chevy or GMC truck with a fuel-injected 5.3 or 6.0 liter LS engine, and then contact Gale Banks about a suitable Turbo setup, because the electronic fuel and ignition management would work great with a Turbo, and that the six-bolt main bottom end of an LS is virtually bulletproof.  "But" he said- "Doesn't Holley and Edelbrock both make carbs designed to work with Blowers?"  Ugh!  "Roots-type superchargers and Turbochargers are totally different." "A Superhcarger is belt-driven,is usually under the carb,which can be custom-jetted, and the blower makes boost on it's own right off-idle and the power level is determined by boost, which is determined by pulley size." "A Turbo uses exhaust gases recycled to make boost." "That's why they generally don't have low-end power like a blower,usually don't "hit" until 3,000 rpm or higher, and the exhaust heat being forced into the intake superheats the fuel charge-that's why they need intercoolers and electronic fuel management." Like talking to the wall. "I'll find someone who knows Diesel Turbos and adapt one of those." Hello? Diesels have direct fuel injection and electronic management, and intercoolers, and don't have freaking carburators!!!!  Here's your sign. Angry Man # 2. Wanted to wanted to put a Boss 429 into a Fox Mustang. My first question was-Do you have a Boss Nine engine? "No." "Do you realize that Jon Kaase Racing and Ford SVT sell them-for $20,000 plus, just for the engine?" "Then you'd have to do a ton of custom fabrication work to install it." "I know guys that run in the 11s with 302 V8s or 302-based 347 strokers." "I know guys that run 10s with Superharged 302s and 347s." "Do you really need to go faster than that?"  "What about a regular 429 or 460?" he asked. "That's do-able." I said-"Hooker and Ford SVT offer motor mounts and headers to do this-" But it's a lot of work and fabricarion-and honestly-unless you spent 20 grand for a 600+hp 514 stroker-a 460 is not going to run any faster than a blown 302, and is going to handle and brake like shit because it's so nose-heavy." "If you've got the bankroll and want a Boss-Nine Mustang, I'd buy a '69 or '70 Mustang fastback, get a Kaase Racing crate motor and build a Boss 429 clone." "It will probalby cost you 50K to build, but that's better than the $250,000 plus people want for "Real" Boss Nines." "What about putting one in a '90's T-Bird?"  "That's not any easier or cheaper than a Fox Mustang-it's probably harder and more expensive!!!  His response-I'm just a naysayer that's negative on everything."  Only on unfeasible projects that are way above people's bank accounts and mechanical abilities!!  Excuse me for trying to be the voice of reason and sanity. Like I said before-anything is possible-including manned space flight but's it not easy or cost-effective!!  Mastermind              

The Path of Most Resistance....

Football coaches and architects, construction workers and military strategists talk about taking "The Path of least resistance." In other words, the easiest way to do something. Sometimes I think car guys are the opposite-they want something to be hard-like it's somehow better if it was difficult to do. Here's a few examples of this type that left me scratching my head. Genius #1. Had a 1979 Pontiac Trans-Am with the 403 Olds / TH350 powertrain. He asked me what would be the best way to convert it to a 4-speed stick. I said sell the car and use the money to buy a disco era T/A or Formula Firebird that had the 400 Pontiac / 4-speed powertrain from the factory. "No,Really?" he asked. "No, Really." I replied. "1st off-converting a car from automatic to stick is a big pain in the ass." "You'll have to buy the pedals and clutch linkage,the disc,pressure plate and throw-out bearing, a stick flywheel, the bellhousing,and the shift linkage." "And that's if your doing an apples to apples conversion like a small-block Chevy." "The 403 Olds was never offered with a manual trans in any GM body." "So no one like Scheifer or Hays makes a flywheel for them." "A 350 Olds Flywheel may interchange-I'll have to do some research." "But even if a 350 Olds flywheel will work-Olds didn't offer a stick in a 350 V8 Cutlass or Omega or anything else after 1974." "So the chance of you finding a usable 41 year old flywheel in a junkyard or at a swap meet is almost nil" "You have a better chance of being struck by lightning on the golf course." "403 Firebirds can be made to really run-the main thing would be swap the 2.56:1 rear end gears for some 3.23:1s or 3.42:1s, and add headers and dual exhausts and maybe an Edelbrock Performer intake." "Those easy mods would give those smug 400 Pontiac owners a surprise they'd never forget." "I know because I had one back in the '80's. " "But if you "Gotta Have" a 4-speed T/A-honestly-the best way is sell your car and buy one." He wouldn't give up. "There's got to be a way." he said. "I just told you the way and how hard it would be." "Yeah it's possible-we know manned space flight is possible-but it's not exactly easy or cost-effective is it?"  Genius # 2. Was considering buying his neighbors '89 Mustang that the neighbor had since new and had kept garaged, put very few miles on, etc. Yeah it was a diamond. But it was a 4-cylinder model. He wanted to know how much trouble it would be to put a V8 in it. "More trouble than it's worth." I said. "Plus '87-93 "5.0" models are the proverbial dime a dozen." "I've seen rough, but running examples as low as $800 and anything over two grand is usually pretty decent." "Anything over 3 or 4 grand is usually really nice". "If you can't find a good deal on an 80's or 90's "5.0" Mustang then you aren't looking past the end of your nose." I might as well have been talking to the wall. "But what would it entail?" "More trouble than it's worth, like I said."  "You'd have to find a 302 V8 complete out of a '79-93 Mustang, and get the wiring harness, you'd need the bellhousing and the transmission-the 4-banger tranny won't hold up behind a V8." "If you didn't get a complete assembly out of a Fox Mustang-your really in trouble. "You'd need a different starter, alternator, fuel pump, water pump, power steering pump,all the brackets and pulleys, a different oil pan, and  all the tin." "By the time you were done-you'll have spent enough money-where you could have just bought a decent "5.0" from an individual or off a used car lot."  "And that's not including what your paying for the 4-banger model." He would not give up. "Ford made a Turbo 4-cylinder model in the '80s, right?" "How about putting a Turbo on it?"  Ugh. "Same deal." "Nothing interchanges." "Just look for an '84-'86 SVO in the want ads and buy that." "But there's not many of them-they didn't sell when they were new because the V8 models were both faster and several thousand dollars cheaper."  "You want a 5.0 liter Mustang go buy one for God's sake!!". "But trying to convert a 4-banger is a nightmare and that's if your a Master Ford Technichian." "Your not."  Genius # 3. Wanted to put a 572 GMPP Rat motor in his '85 IROC-Z Camaro. Do-able-Hooker offers motor mounts and headers to put Big-Block Chevys in '82-92 F-Bodies. I told him he'd have to invest in a TH400 conversion kit and get a custom driveshaft and a 9 inch rear end from Currie enterprises. He asked-dead serious-why couldn't he just use the T5 5-speed stick and the rear end that was in the car?  "Because" I said-"1st off-the bellhousing won't even bolt up to a Rat motor, and the T5 was only offered with 305s because it only has a 300 lb ft torque rating." "Thats why L98 350 IROC's and T/A's were all automatics-GM didn't think it would hold up to the 350's 340 lbs ft of torque." "If it won't hold up to 240 hp and 340 lbs of torque from a low-compression 350, how is it going to live behind 620 hp and 650 lbs of torque a 572 inch Rat makes?" "A TH400 is the easiest,cheapest and best way to go." "If you "gotta have" a stick-then you need to find an old-school '70s Camaro / Chevelle bellhousing, modify the floor pan for clearance, then find an M21 or M22 Muncie 4-speed or you need to invest in a Tremec or Richmond 5 or 6-speed and a custom driveshaft." "The 7.5 inch ring gear rear end in those cars break behind 305s." "How are they going to stand up to a 572?"  Then he says-"What if I didn't get on it too hard?"  AAAUUUGGGHHHHH!!!!  "Let me get this straight-your going to spend $15,000 on a 600 hp engine, and then not get on it hard enough to break the drivetrain of a 30 year old 190 hp Camaro?"  "What would be the purpose in that?"  I hate to be such a know-it-all bastard all the time-but guys-when a pro with 35+ years of experience tells you soemthing isn't feasible or cost-effective, do you think maybe you should listen?  Mastermind                

I guess Sports-Car guys really are smarter....

I've said it until I'm blue in the face and I've written to every Buff Magazine editor I can think of and implored them to stop glorifying the idiots who butcher rare, classic Iron with modern Fuel-Injected engines. What kills me is it's never a beater '72 Malibu or a '75 Firebird-it's always a for-real numbers-matching '68 4-speed SS396 Chevelle or a 1970 Judge that some asshole has stuffed an LS motor and a 4L80E in!! Some bonehead had done this to a Split-Window 1963 Stingray!!  The reason I think Sports-car guys are smarter-is you NEVER see a 1965 Jaguar XKE with a supercharged 5.0 liter V8 out of a 2009 XKR. You NEVER see a 1969 Porsche 911S with the engine and tranny out of a 2013 Cayman!  You don't see restored Datsun 240Z's with the engine and tranny out of a 2012 370Z.  You might see some upgrades-wider wheels with modern ZR rated tires, Koni Shocks,Weber Carbs, performance exhaust systems-but their period correct for the cars. Motorcycle enthusiasts are the same. You never see a 1965 Harley Sportster with a 2010 Buell fuelie motor and six-speed tranny. You never see a 1969 Honda CB750 with the engine and tranny out of a 1990 Hurricane. You never see a 1973 Kawasaki Z1 with a 2012 Ninja powertrain. You buy something old because it's different from what's new. You wouldn't buy a WWII vintage .45 and put laser sights on it would you?  Any how-apparently sports car guys are smarter because they don't desecrate vintage iron. Mastermind  

You got beat by a "slower" car? Here's why and how to fix it.....

Talked to some people the other day at a Mustang club "Show&Shine".  A few of them were griping how they'd lost "Stoplight" Gran Prix's to cars that magazine road tests said were substantially slower. Listening to some of these cars run when they started them, I wasn't surprised. I hear this complaint all the time at "Show&Shine's" and it doesn't matter if the club is GM, Ford, Mopar or AMC.  Here's the problem's that cause this and how to fix it.  # 1. A major engine problem. Do a simple compression test. Even an 8:1 "smog" motor will have 120 psi of compression; higher compression engines will have 150 or 175 or more. The main thing is all 8 cylinders should be close-within 5-10 psi of each other. If one or more cylinders only has 80 or 90 psi of compression-you've got a major problem-bad rings, a blown head gasket, or burned valves. This is more common than you think-I see dozens of Musclecars limping around on 6 or 7 cylinders. # 2. No high rpm power. I'm not talking 7,000 or 8,000 rpm-many cars don't have the bottom end or valvetrain for that. But a 318 Dodge with a 2bbl and 100,000 miles on it will rev to 5,000 rpm or so. If your car starts popping or missing above 3,000 rpm or won't rev past 4,000 or 4,500 you could have a flat cam, weak valve springs, or major timing chain slop. You'd be amazed at the number of musclecars running around with $5,000 paint jobs and $2,000 worth of tires and wheels that can't pull 5,000 rpm in low gear. #3. Bad Ignition setup / tuning. Even on a bone-stock engine bad tuning can cost you as much as 50 hp. I see it all the time-the vacuum advance is unplugged or inoperable, the points are closing up,the timing is way too advanced or way too slow, plug wires are arcing, etc.  Again-guys will tell you about their $5,000 paint job-but they can't remember the last time they changed the plugs and wires, or the cap ,rotor and points!!  #4. Bad Carburators / tuning. I see this all the time. The carb is jetted way too rich or way too lean, the float is sinking, the throttle shafts are warped, the throttle linkage sticks or doesn't open all the way. Think about it-do you really expect a 45 or 50 year old carb to be working flawlessly? The solution is simple-get a new carb. Even some Concours show organizations have changed their rules to allow the carb to be the "Original Type"-i.e.-your 1970 Z/28 is ok if it has a 3310 Holley on it-but it doesn't have to have 1970 date codes. Your '68 440 Charger is ok with an Edelbrock AVS on it-it doesn't have to be a 1968 Carter. The other thing is a lot of these cars are trailer queens / garage jewelry. Their only driven on and off the trailer or for a few weeks a year in the summer for Hot August Nights or the Hot Rod Power tour or whatever. The owners are so damned afraid of blowing it up that the car never sees the high side of 3,000 rpm. Then, the second it fouls a spark plug-they start screwing around with the carburator(s). Pretty soon it won't even start. Have a professional jet the carb(s) for you and then leave them alone!!  If the car is going to sit for extended periods and your going to drive it like grandma on Prozac then go a range or two hotter on the plugs. Then if you decide to take a trip or go to the drags changing to the recommended heat range is pretty easy. And like the GTO song-once in a while you have to "Turn it on,wind it up, blow it out! ". Nobody's saying you have run your Hemi to 7 grand and risk blowing it up; but a run through the gears to even 4,500 rpm or so once a month or a good old-fashioned full-throttle run down the freeway once in a while goes a long way to keeping carbon buildup and sludge out of the fuel system. # 5. Bad transmissions / tuning. I see tons of musclecars running around 2 qts low on transmission fluid, with slipping converters,vacuum modulators un-hooked, sticking governors etc. If you have an automatic trans-change the fluid every couple years even if you don't drive it 5,000 miles a year. Make sure the vacuum modulator is working and that your kickdown linkage is hooked up and working properly. Make sure the cooler isn't plugged up and put a B&M or TransGo shift kit in it. It makes a huge difference. The same goes for sticks-the clutch is slipping or not engaging properly, the shift linkage hangs up or get's caught between gears-these are relatively easy fixes-a new clutch setup or a new Hurst shifter is not that hard to do. # 6. Bad exhaust. Again-you'd be amazed at the number of cars I see with $5,000 paint jobs-that sound like an old school bus. The exhaust system is rusted out or crushed and has multiple leaks-which hurts performance. The worst offenders are the guys who will spend $1,000 bucks on a Flowmaster or Dynomax dual setup and mufflers-but the headers / exhaust manifolds have huge leaks under the hood!! Changing the exhaust manifold / header gaskets and tightening the bolts once in a while goes a long way to keeping the system leak-free-which keeps you from losing large amounts of power. Anyhow-these simple tips will keep your car running like it should and not embarrass you next time you decide to smite some kid in an import or a soccer mom in a V8 Cherokee!!  Mastermind            

Why NASCAR sucks now.....And the way to fix it.........

The letters stand for National Association of Stock Car racing. Now there's people who like Robert Duvall's Harry Hogge character in "Days of Thunder" will argue-that since the '50's-"There's nothing stock about a stock car." Their half-right. Yes-NASCAR racers have always had roll cages and beefed up suspensions and hopped up engines. But the fact remains-that the motto-"Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday" came from NASCAR success. Pontiac surged from sixth to third in U.S car sales in the late fifties and early sixties for two reasons. One-the new president of Pontiac-Semon E. "Bunkie" Knudsen-had a motto-"You can sell a young man's car to an old man, but you can't sell an old man's car to a young man."  Two-Smokey Yunick and Fireball Roberts were the scourge of NASCAR in their Fire-Breathing Pontiacs. Roberts won a record 22 races in the 1961-62 season-a record that stood until Richard Petty won 27 in 1967-68. People wanted to buy cars they saw their heroes driving. And many of our great performance cars came about only because the manufacturers wanted to homogolate them for racing-be it NASCAR, Trans-Am or NHRA drag racing. If it weren't for that there'd have been no Hemi Mopars, no Boss 302 or 429 Mustangs, no Z/28 Camaros-no Big-Block Chevys, no Ram Air IV Pontiacs-the list goes on and on. The bottom line is-yes-Grand National cars were Race cars, not street cars-but you could go to your local dealer and buy a Pontiac Catalina with a 421, a Ford Galaxie with a 406, a Plymouth Belvedere with a 413, and a Chevy Impala with a 409. Later in the '60's you could go to your local dealer and buy a 426 Hemi Charger. You could buy a Torino with a 429, a Chevelle with a 396 or 427. You could buy a Z/28 Camaro or Boss 302 Mustang just like Mark Donohue and Parnelli Jones drove. In the 1970's- even after the Hemis and big-blocks were outlawed you could buy the same cars your heroes drove at Daytona and Talledega-Richard Petty ran a 1974 Charger with great success until 1979. You could buy a Chevelle or Monte Carlo with a 350 V8, just like Cale Yarborough drove. You could buy a Mercury Montego or Cougar with a 351C just like David Pearson drove for the Wood brothers. You could buy an AMC Matador with a 360 V8. When Petty's Juggernaut Charger was outlawed for 1980-NASCAR rules said cars couldn't be more than 5 years old-he switched to a '77 Olds Cutlass-whose fastback roofline and slope nose was more aerodynamic than the flat nose Malibus and notchback Monte Carlos the other GM teams were running-and he kicked ass. The other teams protested because Team Petty was running the ubiquitous small-block Chevy race engine. They argued that he should have to run a 350 Olds engine-which would have been un-competitive. Petty successfully argued that GM was playing musical engines with their production cars-that you could buy off a dealer's lot-a Pontiac Firebird with a 350 Chevy or a 403 Olds engine,an Olds Cutlass with a 305 Chevy V8, a Buick Regal with a 301 Pontiac, and a Chevy Monte Carlo with a Buick V6. NASCAR ruled correctly-that since GM was selling cars to the public that way-race teams could run any GM engine in any GM body. Several teams switched to Cutlasses to keep up with Petty. Even in the 1980s-you could buy a Monte Carlo SS with a V8 just like Dale Earnhardt drove. You could buy a Thunderbird with a V8 just like Bill Elliott won the championship in.  Things went to hell in 1989 when GM discontinued the rear-drive "G" bodies-i.e.-Olds Cutlass, Buick Regal, Chevy Monte Carlo,Pontiac Gran Prix. Now GM still built Camaros and Firebirds which were rear-drive through 2002. Why NASCAR GM teams didn't run Camaros and Firebirds-I have no Idea. Instead the rules were changed and they started running Luminas and Berettas and stuff. Plastic bodies of Front-drive compacts on a tube chassis. Instead of running Mustangs and T-Birds-Ford started running Taurus bodies. Chrysler-who had no rear-drive cars at all started running Dodge Intrepids. So from the early 90's on you've had a '90's front-drive econobox body on a race car chassis that's running 1965 technology. Carburators? Flat-tappet cams? Pushrod engines??? When Toyota wanted to play-instead allowing them to run the I-Force V8 in a Lexus body-NASCAR forced Toyota to basically build their own small-block Chevy replica and run it in a Camry body. The Ford V8s in the Fusions are not 5.4 OHC Mod Motors or 5.0 Coyotes like you get in a Mustang or an F150. Their "Clevors"-again 1969 technology-351W blocks with big-port Cleveland heads. The Chryslers aren't modern 5.7 or 6.1 or 6.4 Hemis-there old-school 360s-a 1967 design. The Chevys aren't LS Motors like you get in a Camaro or a truck-their old-school 350s-just like they were running 40 years ago in 1975. The "Fuel Injection" that was finally allowed in 2014 isn't direct fuel injection like all cars have-it's a 4-barrel throttle body on a Edelbrock Victor Jr manifold-a glorified carburator. NASCAR needs to change the rules-cars need to be based on production models. GM guys could run LS engined Camaros, Ford guys Coyote Mustangs, Dodge Guys could run Hemi Challengers and Chargers, and Toyota could run a Lexus body. Nissan could play with a Infiniti body and the big V8 from the Titan Trucks. People would indentify with the brands and be excited again. Now you've got a bunch of cookie-cutter cars-( they all look like a Camry ) buzzing around with 1960's technology under their phony skins. Ho-Hum. If teams had to run what was in production that would energize things. Maybe if enough people write NASCAR they'll listen.....Mastermind        

What if all the manufacturers hadn't just gave up on performance in 1973-74?...

I mentioned in the last post how the Pontiac Trans-Am became the best-selling car of the late '70s-partly because it was a great car and partly because it was the only game in town. We owe Pontiac-a great debt-if it weren't for the T/A's phenomenal popularity-we wouldn't have had 5.0 Mustangs and Buick Grand Nationals in the '80's or Impala SS's and Ford Lightnings in the '90's. And we wouldn't have 400 hp Mustangs, Camaros and Challengers now. That aside-the other automakers screwed up big time.  Here's some examples. # 1. Olds 442. The Cutlass was the best selling American car in the '70's. However-after 1972 the "W30" 455 was dropped, and the "442" became an "Apperance and Handling package." In other words-you could buy a Cutlass with badass graphics and big tires-that had a 350 2 bbl V8 that wheezed out 150 hp. The sad thing is-the "W30" 455 which could compete with the LS6 454 and Pontiac 455HO could have continued unchanged through 1974 and with minor changes-like Pontiac did with the L78 400-could have rocked on until 1979. Think a 455, 4-speed or TH400 backed 442 would have sold? Is a pig made out of pork?  # 2. Big block Challenger / 'Cudas. For some insane reason, after '71 the biggest engine you could get in a "Cuda or Challenger was a 340 or 360. Since GM kept the F-bodies the same from 70-81-Chrysler could have done the same with the E-bodies if they didn't drop them in '74. And the 400 and 440s were EPA certified in the big cars until '78. Think a 440, 4-speed Challenger could have competed with a Trans-Am?  Yeah!!!!   # 3. Javelin AMX. Same thing-they quit production in 1974. They could have continued on until 1979 easily. The 360 and 401 engines were EPA certified in Jeep Waggoneers and AMC Ambassadors. A 401 Javelin could have competed with a T/A.  # 4. Ford Mustang. Instead of going to the Pinto based Mustang II in 1974-Ford could have kept the '71-73 bodystyle that could accomodate a 429 / 460-and the 460 was certified in T-Birds and Lincolns until '78. Think a 460 Mustang could compete with a 400 or 455 T/A?  Duh!!!!   But everyone just gave in to the bean counters. Thank god Pontiac didn't. Otherwise-like I said-we wouldn't have the great performance cars that we do now.  All Hail Herb Adams and Dennis Mecham and everyone else that promoted T/A's in the '70's. Mastermind    

Some badass cars that never made production.....Damn!!..They'd have been awesome....

For some reason-every manufacturer has had some ultra-badass cars that would have been easy to produce and would have sold like hot cakes, yet they were killed before they were born. Here's a bunch we all wish were built. # 1. 1970 LS6 454 Nova SS. Originally the LS6 454 was slated to be optional in the Nova SS and the Camaro SS as well as the Chevelle line. In fact-the intake manifold loses 10-15 hp over the 1969 427 4bbl intake because it's so flat-designed that way to clear the low hoodline of the new Camaro. Since the 396 was already an option in both cars, it would have been a bolt-in swap. However-a Nova weighs about 800 lbs less than a Chevelle and about 400 lbs less than a Camaro-if the buff mags thought the LS6 Chevelle was badass-an LS6 Nova would have been like "Leroy Brown"-"Badder than King Kong and meaner than a Junkyard Dog."  For whatever reason-the brass killed it and the LS6 was only offered in the Chevelle line that year.  # 2. 1971 Boss 429 Mustang. The larger '71 Mustang was designed with the 429 CJ as an option, so it's huge engine bay could have easily accepted a "Boss 429". And unlike the -'69 and '70 models which started life as 428 models and were converted at Kar Kraft-( Ford lost money on every one ) the '71s could have been built on Ford's assembly line. For whatever reason, Ford decided not to offer the Boss 429 at the last minute. # 3. 1971 Plymouth Superbird / Dodge Charger Daytona. Chrysler considered putting the slope-nose and big wing on the new for '71 models, and then changed their mind at the last minute. Too bad. They'd have been cool.  # 4. 1971-73 429 / 460 Mercury Cougar. Since Pontiac offered a 455 in the best-selling Gran Prix and Chevrolet offered a 454 in it's Monte Carlo cousin some Ford engineers thought the Cougar should have a big block as well. The bean counters decided that the G/P and the Monte were competitors of the T-Bird, not the Cougar. Hello? The T-Bird was based on the much heavier Lincoln MKIV platform. In drag race-the 455 and 454 "A" body ( Chevelle / LeMans chassis ) GM offerings would blow the doors off a 429 / 460 T-Bird. My cousin had an early '70's GP with a 455. It had power everything, and it felt like a GTO. She showed her taillights to quite a few evil-looking Camaro and Mustangs.  A 429 Cougar would have been competitive. Alas-a 351C was the biggest engine you could get in a Cougar. # 5. 1974 Pontiac GTO. Initially-Pontiac was going to keep the GTO nameplate on the LeMans platform and offer the SD-455-that had only been available in the Trans-Am / Formula Firebirds in '73. That might have given sales a shot in the arm. When it was decided to move it to the "X" body ( read Nova / Ventura / Omega ) platform, the engineers got the bright idea of returning to it's 1964 roots that made it wildly successful-stuff a "Big Car" V8 into a light compact. They thought about dropping in a 400 and reviving the "Judge" moniker. Since the 350 was already an option in the Ventura and Pontiac engines are externally identical it would have easy. And a Ventura weighs about 500 lbs less than a Firebird. A 400 Ventura / GTO would have been a rocket-even quicker than the vaunted SD-455 Trans-Am. Since the T/A was now the flasgship and cash cow, the brass couldn't allow that. So the down-sized Goat got a 7.6:1 compression 350 that wheezed out 200 hp. And they wondered why they didn't sell?  # 6. 1977 AMC AMX. I know there was an AMX option in '77-78, but let me finish. After 1974-there was no more 'Cuda / Challengers, no more Road Runners, the Charger was a re-badged Chrysler Cordoba ( yuk! ) the Mustang was more Pinto / Capri than Mustang, the Javelin was no more, no more SS Chevelles, and the Z/28 was gone, and the biggest engine you could get in a Corvette was a 350, and you couldn't even get a 4-speed in California!. Gee-wonder why 400 and 455 Pontiac Trans-Ams were selling in record numbers, even before "Smokey and the Bandit" came out?  Musclecar buyers didn't go away after 1974-the manufacturers stopped making cars they wanted to buy!! After T/A sales doubled or tripled every year from '73-76 ( "Smokey and the Bandit" wasn't released until May 1977 )  Everyone realized their collossal goof and began trying to find a Trans-Am fighter. Chevrolet hastily re-introduced the Z/28 Camaro for '77 with very T/A like spoilers and graphics. AMC engineers developed a performance package for the compact Hornet. It had a great handling suspension and since-like Pontiacs-AMC engines are externally identical-a 304 V8 was an option in the Hornet line-they got the bright idea to swap in a 401 out the big car / Jeep line. That would have been a bolt-in swap. Since a Hornet only weighs about 2,900 lbs-and a '77 T/A weighs about 3,800-a 401 Hornet AMX would have smoked a 400 Trans-Am in a drag race or the twisties. They might not have been sexy but-like the '68 Road Runner-they'd have been a stripped-down, badass street fighter. In spite of irrefutable proof that performance buyers were still out there-Pontiac sold 50,000 T/As in 1976 alone, and another 68,000 in '77, and the revived Z/28 was selling-'77 and '78 were record sales years for the Camaro and Corvette-the AMC brass decided that performance didn't matter only cosmetics-so they ok'd the suspension and graphics package but nixed the engine swap. The only engines available in the Hornet AMX were a 258 inch six and a 304 V8 with a 2bbl that wheezed out 120 hp, and there was no manual transmission option. Decisions like this are why AMC went under.  # 7. 1990 Buick Reatta. That's not a Typo. Buick engineers wanted to make the racy Reatta 2-seater rear-wheel drive and drop in the badass Turbo V6 out of the now-defunct Grand National. ( Since the engine was offered in the '89 20th Anniversary T/A, they were still building them. )  Chevrolet brass had an absolute meltdown-as a GN-engined Reatta would have blown the doors off an L98 Corvette in performance and sales both. GM brass nixed it-and the Reatta was made front-drive with a normally aspirated V6 that wheezed out 120 hp. And they wondered why they didn't sell?  What might have been....Mastermind                

Ask for professional advice....And then don't take it...stick to your fantasy....

Had a guy mention an old Hot Rod article about a couple guys that ran a 440 powered '68 Charger in the Silver State classic and went like 185 mph. ( They were shooting for 200 mph ). He asked if I thought they could break 200 if they'd had a Hemi. I said no-the 440 they had was putting out like 600 hp-they didn't need more power-they needed a lighter and more aerodynamic car than a heavy, boxy '68 Charger. He asked what combination I would run if I wanted to try to go 200 in the Silver State classic or at Bonneville. I said I would use a 1982-90 Pontiac Trans-Am with a 454 Chevy for power as this would be the easiest and most econmical way to do it. Then he asks why not a '70's T/A with a 455 Pontiac. Here's why-# 1. Aerodynamics is just as much a factor in high-speed runs as power. A more aerodynamic car can go faster with less power because it slices through the wind easier. Why do you think a '79 Trans-Am can go 132 mph while a 454 powered GMC Stepside '78 1/2 ton pick-up can only go 118-even though they both weigh about 3,800 lbs and the truck had 20 more hp ( 240 vs 220 ) and catalyst-free exhaust?  Because the Firebird slices through the wind easier than the boxy truck. Very simple. Anyhow-I said-a '70's T/A has a drag coefficient of .048. The '82-90 model has a drag coefficient of .032-or .028 with the "Aero" package. That's about as low as your going to get with a production car. Even if they had the same amount of power-the '80's model would go way faster because of the aerodynamics. Secondly, the '70's T/A weighed about 3,800 lbs. The '80's model weighed about 3,200.  So with the aerodynamics and the weight advantage-the '80's model would go much faster with the same amount of power.  # 2. Bang for the buck. Like it or not nothing makes more power for less money than a big-block Chevy. Yes a Chrysler Hemi or Boss Nine Ford can make as much or more power-but at double or triple the cost. For example the GMPP 454 HO makes 440 hp and 500 lbs of torque for $5995.  The 465 hp 426 Hemi that Mopar Performance sells retails for $14,995. The 472 and 510 Hemis are way more expensive than the 502 or 572 GMPP Rat Motors. As for the guys question about a 455 Pontiac-yes Butler performance and other companies offer 600 hp Pontiac motors-at a cost of $15,000 or more. Then he asks if a Fox-bodied Mustang could do 200 with a 347 stroker?  Really?  I just said you'd have a hard time doing it with a slippery T/A with a pumped to the gills 454 Chevy. Why would you think a "barn door" Mustang could do it with a 347 small-block??  Really?? Mastermind  

You can restore or build a car on a budget....Just don't waste money on unnecessary upgrades that offer little "Bang for the Buck"..

I was talking to some gearheads in Summitt Racing the other day and they were lamenting  how expensive it is to build a hot rod. I'm not always "Devil's Advocate", but I had to differ. The reason is these guys had fallen into emulating car magazine project cars and the ever-present "Gotta Haves.". The "Gotta Haves" can drive the price of a project up substantially while not really offering the performance return for the dollars invested. Heres the main offenders. # 1. Aftermarket 4-wheel disc brake systems. Why does every single magazine project car have to have a Wildwood or Brembo 4-wheel disc brake setup worthy of a NASCAR Nextel Cup race car?  Don't get me wrong, I'm all for safety-But honestly-the stock front disc / rear drum or 4-wheel disc brake setup on most late '60s, '70's, '80's and '90's cars isn't adequate to stop the car in daily driving or on a weekend trip to the drags?  I had a friend that Autocrossed his '76 Trans-Am with great success, with the stock brakes. We figured out that if he used Police-Spec D52 Metallic pads and Dot 5 fluid, that his brakes wouldn't fade, even in back to back events. Ditto for another friend that had a '78 Camaro "Super Stock" circle track car that he raced on 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile and 5/8 mile ovals. Even on a 50 lap main event on a 1/4 mile track-( that's a lot of heavy braking ) his brakes never faded either. In fact he found that the Dot 5 fluid was the key. Dot 3 fluid would boil-and cause the pedal to be mushy. As long as he used Dot 5 fluid and Police-spec Wagner or Ferodo pads-he never had a problem. If you are building an autocross car or something that your going to race in vintage car races at Laguna Seca or Lime Rock then you might want an upgraded braking system-but honestly-whether it's a '68 Chevelle, a '78 Trans-Am, an '88 "5.0" Mustang or a '98 Dodge Dakota R/T your playing with-anything with factory front disc brakes is going to be able to handle 500-600 hp safely in daily driving or a weekend trip to the drags. In fact-back in the '70's-I knew many guys who built 400 hp V8 Vegas, Pintos and Chevy LUV trucks-and the stock front disc/ rear drum setups on those compacts stopped the cars safely from multiple 100+ mph 1/4 mile runs every Saturday night. A lot of guys who built 10 second Shelby Cobra kit cars used Mustang II front suspension and disc brakes and the cars stopped quicker than most production sports cars.  # 2. Ford 9" rear ends. Why does every single magazine project car-even GM or Mopar-have to have a $4,000 custom Currie 9 inch rear end?  In 40 years-I have never seen anyone break a Chrysler 8 3/4 rear. A friend has a Duster with a 505 inch 440 based stroker with nitrous that runs 9s on wrinklewall slicks-and he's never had a problem. I had Lakewood Ladder bars and N50-15 Mickey Thompson Hot-n-Sticky drag tires on my GTO-I'd pop the clutch at 4,500 rpm and powershift at 6,500 and I never broke the 12 bolt rear in it.  I've had 400, 4-speed '70's Trans-Ams and popped the clutch at 3,500-4,000 rpm 15 times at a weekend at the drags-every weekend for two years-and never broke the 8.5 inch 10 bolt posi. LIke I said-I know guys who have Cobra replicas with 500+hp 302s, 351s and even 427s-and they've never broke the 8 inch Ford Maverick / Mustang II rears that their using. I know guys with 9 second Fox Mustangs that have never broken the stock 8.8 rear. Yes-if you've got a 720 hp 572 inch Rat backed with a TH400 with a 5 grand converter and a trans-brake and your running wrinklewall slicks bolted to the rims-driveline breakage is a possiblity-but for most people-the stock rear end will hold up to just about any power level. The exception being the 7.5 incher in '80's Camaros and Firebirds and GM G-bodies. They break with moderate power levels-they need an upgrade-but just about anything else-that 1/4 or 1/2 inch on the ring gear isn't going to make that much difference. # 3. Upgraded transmissions. Every magazine car seems to have a Richmond or BW five or six-speed stick or a beefed up 4 or 6-speed automatic. In reality-a C4 or a TH350-a "small-block" trans-will withstand up to 500 hp in basically stock trim-i.e. a shift improver kit and upgraded cooler. My brother's GTO has a 400 with the Edelbrock Performer RPM package on it-Edelbrock claims 422 hp and 441 lbs of torque with this package- and his TH350 has lasted 7 years with his lead foot-and still lays 30 feet of rubber on the 1-2 shift. A friend with a Ram Air III '69 Firebird has a 200R4 in his car-and it works great. I know Buick Grand National racers that run 11s with 200R4's. So you don't need a TCI or B&M or Art Carr built  700R4 or Ford AOD for your car. If your car has a TH400, 727 Torqueflite or C6-their practically indestructible in stock trim-that's why they were put behind 454 Chevys and 455 Buick, Olds and Pontiacs, 440 and 426 Hemi Mopars and 429 and 460 Fords in various cars and trucks. A shift kit and an adjustable modulator will be all you need in any but the most radical applications. Ditto for sticks. The 4-speed in your GM, Ford or Mopar Musclecar will stand up to just about any power level. Even factory 5-speeds are very tough. I know guys with 11 second "5.0" Mustangs that are running stock T5 trannys. I know a guy that put a stompin' ZZ4 crate engine in an '85 IROC-Z-and it lasted 13 months with him powershifting it 20 times a weekend every weekend at the drags. If he'd drove it normally it probably would have lasted 5 years. If you want an overdrive tranny and can afford it-fine go for it-but that's 3 grand that you don't really need to spend. # 4. Unnecessary bottom-end beef and machine work. Here's where the "Gotta Haves" are half-right. If your building a NASCAR Nextel Cup engine that has to go 7,800 rpm for 500 miles at Daytona, or a Pro Stock or Top-Fuel drag car-then you need all the beef you can get. For the average street machine that will never see the high side of 6,500 rpm-you don't. Two-bolt main blocks are fine for this kind of use. Ditto for cast cranks and cast pistons. That's what I told a guy who asked my advice about building a hot small-block Chevy. I told him I'd only recommend a forged crank and pistons if he was going to run a blower or nitrous. But then my question is-"If you have THAT much money and need to go THAT fast-why aren't you building a 454 instead of a 350?"  See what I'm saying?  Anyhow-just because " Project Badass" has it-doesn't mean you have to copy it part for part. Mastermind        

No you didn't.....and your still a moron....Part 2...

Got some more outrageous boasts from angry idiots after the last post. I thought I'd share the more entertaining ones. # 1. This is my personal favorite. This clown, who has a 1986 SVO Mustang-which if you don't know has a Turbocharged 4-cylinder engine with 200 hp. When they were new-they ran 0-60 times in the 7 second range and the 1/4 in the high-15s. Not bad for the time-but the "5.0" V8 models were both quicker and several thousand dollars cheaper-which is why the SVO's didn't sell. Anyhow this idiot claims that he beat a 1998 WS6 Trans-Am-which had 320 hp stock and ran 5-second 0-60 times and high 13s in the 1/4. Technically he did, but he sounds like such an asshole justifying it. They didn't line up at a stoplight and go on green, and he left the other guy. No,-he races in a bracket racing class at his local strip. The way they do it is if a 15 second car is racing a 13 second car-the 15 second car gets a two second head start. I mean they literally let one car leave the line, while the other one sits there staring at a red light for two whole seconds, before he's allowed to launch. This system really favors the slower cars. Often the guy waiting for the delayed launch redlights and loses,or doesn't launch quick enough when he finally gets the green and loses. There's no way in hell this clowns '86 SVO Mustang could beat a '98 LS1 WS6 T/A in a regular drag race, or a "Stoplight Gran Prix". # 2. This one is hilarious too. This guy I sold cars with back in the '80's. He asked me if I remembered his 289 powered '67 Mustang beating a mutual friend's '69 SS396 El Camino from a light. I do-and I asked him if he remembered that the guy had blown the 396 up a couple months before, and had put a 307 with a 2bbl in the car so he could drive it while he was rebuilding the 396. So he beat an Elky with a junkyard 2bbl carbed 307, not a "real" SS396!!  # 3. Here's another "10 second" car that got smoked by a 14 second car. This guy had a shop next to mine for years. He had a '68 Nova that started out as a six-cylinder, 3-speed model. It had a one-legger monoleaf sprung 3.08:1 10 bolt rear. He put a 350 and a 4-speed in it. I don't know what cam he had in it-it idled rough enough to tell me it was "too big" for the car-and it had headers and a really loud exhaust and a Weiand Tunnel Ram with two 660 Holleys. He put traction bars on it to control wheelhop. He was always revving it up and smoking the tires. It spun the wheels and made a lot of noise-but I never thought it moved that fast. One day he challenged my buddys restored 440 powered 1972 Road Runner to a drag race. The Road Runner was restored to stock specs-except it had an Edelbrock carb on it instead of a Thermo-Quad. It was only a race for about 100 feet. As soon as the Road Runner stopped smoking it's tires he started pulling away. He won by about 5 or six car lengths. The Nova driver was aghast. How could this be? I told him-his car was built wrong-his tunnel-ram killed whatever low-end torque his engine did have-and the 3.08:1 gearing didn't help. He needed a single 4bbl induction system and some 3.73:1 or 4.11:1 gears, and m,aybe a smaller cam for it ro run the way it should. And even then it would have been maybe a 13 second car-not a ( GAG!!!! Damn the "F&F Movies!!! ) "10 second" car. Anyhow just had to vent those. Mastermind                

No you didn't......And you sound like a moron insisting you did.....

Had a couple of conversations this week that made me want to slap the people senseless-when I realized if they had any sense-they wouldn't be making the stupid statements that they were!!!  I blame the "Fast&Furious" movies. I know their immensely popular-but since the first one in 2001, stars Vin Diesel and the late Paul Walker spouting about "10 second" cars and insane horsepower numbers has caused idiots everywhere to make impossible boasts about their car's ability.  Moron #1. Claimed to have a Mitsubishi EVO sedan with "800" hp that could go 140 mph in third gear, and topped out at 197 mph-when he "Let off". Let me quote actor Ricardo Montalban- "Welcome to Fantasy Island." Here's why- 1st off- a stock Mitsubishi EVO has 305 hp. Like its closest competitior- the Subaru WRX STI-it runs 0-60 times in the mid 5-second range and the 1/4 in the very low 14s or very high 13s depending on which magazine road test you read and brutal the launch was. They also have a top speed of about 143 mph. He claims that by adapting a Ford Diesel truck Turbo that he was able to push the little 4-banger to the 800 hp level. Really-how-since Gale Banks-who is widely regarded as "THE" Turbo Guru-could only get 800 hp out of a 454 Chevy V8 and in a gutted '82 Trans-Am race car that had a drag coeffieceint of .028-was barely able to top 200 mph in Bonneville run. But I'm supposed to believe that this guy-in his garage was able to make that power level with one bolt-on piece-no head porting, no hotter cams, no bigger exhaust, no nitrous or water injection, no MSD or Jacobs additional electronic management, no larger fuel injectors, etc- from a 4-clyinder engine thats less than 150 cubes??  Even if this backyard mechanic was somehow able to actually increase the horsepower of his car by 50%-no easy feat even for factory engineers-he'd have "only" 450 hp-which would make the 3.330 lb car an absolute rocket-but it's still nowhere near "800" hp!!! And his speed claims are ludicrous. With stock gearing-even if he disabled the rev limiter and could go 7,500-8,000 rpm-the fastest he could possibly go in third gear is about 90 mph. As for his top speed claim-he's totally dreaming. The Hellcat Charger that really does have 707 hp-can only pull 186 mph top speed. The Z06 Corvette-which weighs less than an EVO, has 650 hp and a drag coefficient of something like .024-way more aerodynamic than the boxy little jap sedan-can only go 192. Danica Patrick-a NASCAR and Indy car driver-couldn't top 200 for Car and Driver in a Lamborghini Gallardo-but this asshole can go 197 in his boxy little rice rocket. Riggghhhht.  NASCAR Nextel Cup race cars that really do have 850 hp and are gutted, aerodynamic race cars-not production sedans with airbags, etc-rarely top 195 mph-with miles of acceleration at Talledega or Daytona. But this asshole goes quicker in his street car-he just "Lets off" at 197!!!  Sorry bud, not in your wildest, wettest dreams.  Moron # 2. Had a 1974 Pontiac Ventura. I like Venturas.  ( Pontiac's version of the Nova.) I had two of them-one with a warmed over 350 and the other with the warmed over 400 out of my wrecked Trans-Am. Since they weigh about 600 lbs less than a '70s Firebird-they make a good street machine. And any suspension or brake upgrades that fit a Camaro / Firebird fit these cars-so you can build a corner-carver or a drag racer. I commented on how nice the car was-and said I had a couple, and that my 400 version was quite a sleeper. Arrogant little bastard sneers at me-"Yeah well this one runs 10s."  I couldn't resist. Really? I said-"I'll run you right now,with my Subaru, and I'll bet you 100 bucks you can't outrun my Subaru." "And it's not a WRX, it's a Forester." "And it's not even a Turbo Forester." ( When Motor Trend voted the Forester SUV of the year for 2014-the Turbo model ran a 6.2 second 0-60 time and a 14.7 second 1/4. The base model, which I have-ran a 7.5 second 0-60 time and a 15.8 second 1/4 ). Which is faster than Cars Magazine's 1974 Ventura GTO test car. "I don't race for less than $500." the punk sneered at me. I had to crush him. "Ok." I said. "Let's race for $1,000." "Right Now." "You got "Noss" ( not nitrous,"Noss" god I hate the "F&F" movies!!!! ) on that thing?" He asked. "No." I replied. "You think your Forester runs 10s?" He sneered. "No."  "And your car couldn't travel 1320 feet in 10 seconds if it was dropped from an airplane." "Because I had a '69 GTO with a 12:1 compression, Ram Air III 400 with a solid-lifter Crane Cam, Hooker Headers, an Offenhauser Dual-Quad manifold with two 750 AFBs,backed by a Rock-Crusher 4-speed and a 4.33:1 geared posi rear end with Lakewood Ladder bars and N50-15 Mickey Thompson "Hot-n-Sticky" drag tires-and it could only run an 11.79 in the 1/4."  "I'm supposed to believe that your 7.6:1 compression 350 with stock iron intake and exhaust manifolds and a stock cam, and an automatic with a one-legger, 3.08:1 10 bolt rolling on 205 /75R14 tires is a full-second quicker than my Goat?" "I don't think so." "In fact like I said-I don't think this slug can out run my little SUV." "Or my co-worker's Honda Civic."  "Screw you buddy." he growled. "Yeah. Screw you too,obviously the truth hurts." He couldn't even lay 10 feet of rubber on his angry launch out of the parking lot, turning right!!. My buddy and I laughed ourselves sick. "Yep-that's a "10 second" car."  Guys-when you flippantly pull numbers out of your ass-you sound like a complete idiot to anyone who's ever been a mechanic or on a dragstrip or a racetrack. And you sound even stupider when you insist-after they've given irrefutable proof that you are wrong. If your going to brag about your "10 second" car-you damn sure better have a timeslip to back it up!!!  Mastermind        

There's a good reason for many "Day Two" modifications.....

I hear it every day-some "Just as it left the factory" type makes an incredible barn find of a low-mileage musclecar and then bitches because it has a couple of non-stock parts-i.e. a Mallory distributor or a Holley carb or something else that was a popular mod back in the day. Besides enthusiasts looking for more speed, there was a lot of factory parts that just didn't work from the get go. Here's the major ones. # 1. Shifters. Pontiac GTOs and Firebirds and Olds 442s with 4-speeds had Hurst shifters from the factory, which worked great even when powershifting. However-for some insane reason Chevrolet SS 396 Chevelles and Impalas and even small and big-block Camaros and Novas used a horrible body-mounted Muncie linkage. Forget powershifting-if you were over 3,000 rpm and had your foot in it-the linkage would bind up. You couldn't shift them quickly under any circumstances. So most people did the smart thing and went to their local speed shop and bought a Hurst or Mr Gasket shifter and solved the problem. This wasn't just a Chevy problem. Fords and Chryslers had terrible shifters. In 1970-the new Hurst-"Pistol Grip" shifter that showed up in Mopars was a vast improvement-but it still wasn't great. Ask anyone who tried to powershift a pre-1970 Mopar and they'll tell you horror stories of missed shifts and being stuck between gears. Ditto for Fords. Yes, the Boss 302 had a Hurst linkage-but the 70,000 other V8 Mach 1 Mustangs had a terrible Inland linkage. Even in the disco-era the Pontiac Trans-Am had a Hurst shifter from the factory and the Z/28 Camaro had a crappy Inland shifter.  So that's why you rarely see a stock shifter in anything other than a Pontiac- in most musclecars-they were replaced with a Hurst 40 or 50 years ago!!  # 2. Distributors. GM had decent distributors. If you used genuine Delco or Accel points they were good to 6,000 rpm or so. Not so with Fords and Mopars. Their points would "sign off" about 5,000 rpm. If they weren't set perfectly, they'd start to "bounce" as low as 4,400 rpm. You never saw a Ford or Mopar drag racer who didn't have extra sets of points in his toolbox!! A lot of guys switched to aftermarket Accel or Mallory units. They did it because the stock ones just flat didn't work. There's a reason everyone rejoiced when Chrysler went to electronic ignition in 1972 and GM and Ford in '75!!  # 3. Carburators. This is what hurt Ford the most. The Autolite 4100 and 4300 4bbls are THE WORST carbs ever built, bar none. They were terrible when they were brand-new. Cold-starting problems, crappy gas mileage, no power. My dad was a carburator specialist in the '60s and '70's for both GM and Ford. If you had a new Ford in the early '70's and you bitched hard enough-Ford would have their dealers replace them with a 600 cfm Holley with a electric choke and warranty it!! If I remember correctly the carb number was either 6619 or 6919. My dad installed hundreds of them-even on 429 and 460 powered T-Birds and Lincoln MKIV's!!  But most gearheads that had Torinos, Mustangs, and Cougars didn't know that-and they just replaced them with a Holley or a Carter AFB. The Carter AVS that came on most Chrysler products worked pretty good, but they only flowed about 585 cfm. Fine for a little 273 small-block, but kind of choked off the big 383 and 440 engines. So a lot of guys switched to big Holleys. The 750 cfm Carter Thermo-Quads that Chrysler went to after 1970 was ok when they were brand-new, but the bakelite bodies would warp from engine heat and start bleeding over and running like crap. GM Quadrajets fared a little better brand-new-but for some insane reason a lot of these had plastic floats. Gasoline is corrosive to plastic, so the floats would get heavy and sink and the cars would run like crap. Tuners like my dad and Brad Urban and Nunzi Romano would rebuild them and use brass floats and jet them properly for performance use, but again-most gear heads just junked them. And in a lot of cases-they changed the manifold too. The reason being-the Carter AFB and all Holleys had a square bore bolt pattern that wasn't compatible with Q-jet or Thermo-Quad spread-bore manifolds. Some guys used adapters-but that never really worked well-so most of the time guys changed the carb and intake. Edelbrock and Offenhauser made a mint because of this. Then in 1971-Holley came out with a line of carbs that had the spread-bore bolt pattern. You could now put a Holley on your car without changing the manifold. And a lot of guys did. # 4. Exhaust. All musclecars had restrictive exhaust systems. Some-like the stupid "Crossflow" muffler in '70's Camaros and Firebirds and Corvettes-really killed performance. Even if you didn't have headers-going to an aftermarket dual exhaust system could add 40 hp with stock exhaust manifolds. It was too much of an easy boost for most people to resist. Who wouldn't want more hp, better gas mileage and a throatier sound?  # 5 Wheels and Tires. Really?? Is there anyone wondering about this one?? You'd really try to make a 454 Chevelle or a 440 'Cuda or a 428 Mustang try to hook up on F70-14 Goodyear Polyglas GTs or Firestone Wide Ovals??  Or even a 400 Firebird or 396 Chevelle or a 340 Duster for Pete's sake!!  Anything with any power at all built in the '60's and '70's needed more rubber on the road!!  That's how M&H and Mickey Thompson and Pro-Trac flourished selling big tires. B.F. Goodrich burst onto the scene with the Radial T/A-one of the first wide performance tires of radial design. Hope that clears things up on "Day 2" mods.....Mastermind              

The reasons why their aren't more ultra-premium musclecars left.....

Someone told me the other day that he didn't understand why more of the prized musclecars-i.e.-Boss 302s, Hemi 'Cudas, LS6 Chevelles,428 CJ Mustangs, RAIV GTOs, etc weren't sold when they were new. Having worked in car dealerships all my life-I think I can give a viable answer, although there's no one single factor-but a variety of factors that contribute to these car's rarity. # 1. Availability of the option. This has always been a problem. A manufacturer introduces something really cool,and the buff magazines get wind of it and write about it, and people start pestering dealers wanting to buy the cars. But often the dealers can't even get the cars. Beleive me-they'd want to sell as many of them as they could, but often they can't get them. Here's several examples. Back in the '60's and '70's you had to sell 500 units to the public if you wanted to race the car in NASCAR or Trans-Am, or even NHRA Stock or Super Stock Drag classes. This is why only 602 Z/28 Camaros were built in 1967 and why only 1,603 Boss 302 Mustangs were built in 1969. Ford and Chevy didn't care about selling them to the public-they wanted to homogolate them for racing. Same thing with Thunderbolt Fairlanes and Hemi Darts. Secondly, the manufacturer's often changed or limited the availability of the option. For example-Initially, the LS6 454 was slated to be available in the Camaro SS and the Nova SS as well as the Chevelle line. The flat intake manifold that loses 15 hp compared to the 1969 427 4bbl intake was designed to clear the low hood of the new for 1970 Camaro. Since the 396 was an option in both cars the 454 would have been a no-brainer drop-in.  The brass decided to cut down on model proliferation at the last minute, and the engine was only offered in the Chevelle line late in the model year. Thus although nearly 50,000 SS 396 Chevelles were sold that year-only 4,478 LS6 SS 454s were sold. And think about this-At that time Chevrolet had a network of 7,700 dealers across the United States. Do the math-with only 4478 cars built-not every dealer got one-regardless of how high demand was. This is also why there is no LS6 1970 Corvettes. Zora-Arkus Duntov, chief Corvette engineer- fully expected the much more radical LS7 to make production as the 'Vette's top engine option which is why the LS6 wasn't offered. In early 1973 sales literature the SD-455 was listed as optional in the Grand Am, Gran Prix, LeMans,GTO and Firebird Formula and Trans-Am models. The buff magazines were excited. CARS magazine made a collossal goof-they voted the 1973 GTO their "Car of the Year." Both Hot Rod and Car and Driver raved about their Red T/A test car-( it was the same car ) that ran blistering 1/4 mile times of 13.54 and 13.75 respectively.  However-the engines had trouble passing emissions with the radical 308 / 320 duration RAIV cam. The cam was swapped for the milder 301 / 313 duration RAIII cam and hp was down-rated from 310 to 290. Then they had reliability and availability problems with the connecting rod supplier. In fact- if you went to a dealer and wanted to buy a set of SD-455 rods-you had to produce a matching vin number or they wouldn't sell them to you! They also had more trouble passing emissions because of faulty EGR valves. Only the tireless efforts of Herb Adams and the buff magazines kept GM from scrapping it altogether. Finally-in April 1973 the engine was EPA certified in the Firebird line only. This is why only 295 were built-252 in Trans-Ams and another 43 in Formulas. And that's why they all have May or June production dates. Another 943 were sold in 1974 Trans-Ams. This wasn't just a '60s and '70's problem. In the early '80's I was selling cars in a Chevrolet / Pontiac dealership. In 1983 the buff magazines raved about the L69 Performance Package for Z/28 Camaros and Firebird Trans-Ams. These hotted up 305s had a higher compression ratio, a hotter cam, a better exhaust and a better intake, and an electric radiator fan to lower parasitic losses. This bumped hp from 150 on the standard LG4 to 190 for the L69. Car and Driver's May 1983 test car ran a blistering ( for the time ) 6.7 second 0-60 time and the 1/4 in 15.0. However-the fan switch wouldn't kick the fan on until coolant tempurature reached 225 degrees. This caused overheating and vapor lock problems. Very few were sold. The option returned for '84-and GM solved the problem by going to a 180 degree thermostat instead of 195, and having the fan kick on at 180 instead of 225. Only gearheads knew about the option so they didn't sell a ton of them. It was offered agian in '85-but then the new Tuned Port Injected LB9 with 215 hp was the big dog-and the L69 quietly faded away, even though it was a good package. In 1984 the new Corvette was offered with the 4-speed 700R4 automatic and a Super T10 4-speed manual with an overdrive that could be turned on in 2nd,3rd or 4th, effectively giving you 7 gears. However they had problems with the operation of the overdrives, and 99% of '84 'Vettes were automatics-even though enthusiasts very much wanted the manuals. They got the bugs out-and it actually worked very well and was available from 1985-88. In 1989 they went to a 6-speed manual. But try to find a manual '84 model-there's not many of them.  # 2 Price of the Option. This is just as big a factor as # 1-maybe even bigger. Think about this-in 1968 the base price of a 383 Road Runner was about $2,800. That was a screaming deal for a stripped-down performance car that could run just as fast as the much more expensive Pontiac GTO, Olds 442 and Chevy SS 396 Chevelle. They sold 45,000 in '68 and in '69 they sold 81,000-almost 10,000 more units than Pontiac could sell of the vaunted GTO. Yes the mighty 426 Hemi was an option-a $1,163 option!!  And you couldn't buy a Hemi with the standard 3-speed manual you HAD to get a 4-speed or a Torqueflite automatic. You HAD to get a heavy-duty radiator, heavy duty suspension and a Dana 60 rear. ( Why I don't know-I've never seen anyone ever break an 8 3/4 ). By the time you got all the "mandatory" options-the price had risen from $2,800 to $5,000+. Further-for some reason Chrysler only gave the Hemi a 1 year / 12,000 mile warranty. The 383 and 440 engines got a 5 year / 50,000 mile warranty. One of the editors for Musclecar Review still has the 440 Road Runner that he bought new in 1969. He said he didn't get a Hemi for those reasons. The 440 was like a $200 option, the Hemi, with the other "mandatory" options was in reality almost a $2,000 option-again pushing the price from just over 3 grand to over 5 grand. And for a young guy with a wife and kids making payments on a new car-that 5 year / 50,000 mile warranty was really important. Plus-the Hemis were a race engine that Chrysler was only selling to the public so they could race them in NASCAR. The peaky, dual-quad, huge headed, solid-lifter Hemi really needed a 4-speed and 4.10 or stiffer gears to get maximum performance. Popular Hot Rodding said the Torqueflite equipped, 3.23:1 geared '69 Hemi Charger they tested felt like it was running with one flat tire. They said it desperately need 4.30 gears and a high stall converter. They were right-on the high banks of Daytona or the Drag Strip with open exhausts and proper gearing the Hemi was King Kong-Richard Petty and Ronnie Sox were unstoppable in NASCAR and Pro Stock drag racing. But the milder 383 and 440 4bbl engines were actually quicker on the street. Ditto for the Boss 302 and Boss 429 Mustangs. The 302 had a lot of special one-off parts and had very little torque below 3,000 rpm. There's a reason they were only available with a 4-speed and 3.90:1 or 4.30:1 gears!!  And to cut down on warranty problems on these expensive pieces-Ford put a rev-limiter on it that cut off spark at 5,700 rpm!! Kind of pointless on a car that makes all it's power from 5,000-8,000 rpm!!  The 351W that was standard in the Mach 1 was a much better street engine, and could be had with an automatic and air conditioning if you wanted it. The 429s started out as 428 models, and were shipped to Kar Kraft for the Boss-Nine conversion. They too, had a lot of one-off special parts, and Ford lost money on every single Boss built. The Boss 429 was designed for one thing and one thing only-to beat the vaunted Chrysler 426 Hemi on the Super Speedways of Daytona, Charlotte and Talledega. It didn't run well with restricted exhaust and street gearing. The 390 and 428 engines actually ran faster on the street and in magazine 1/4 mile testing. But the nose-heavy "FE" engined 390 /428 cars were terrible handlers. The 351W / 351C engined Mach 1s of the '69-70 period were actually the best balanced and best performing Mustangs of the time. This affected every automaker. The vaunted Ram Air IV Pontiac engine had forged pistons, special round-port cylinder heads, a special aluminum high-rise intake, special round-port exhaust manifolds, and the hot 308 / 320 duration cam with 1.65:1 rockers and .520 lift. It was only available with a 4-speed or an automatic with a special 2,500 rpm converter and 3.90:1 or 4.33:1 gears. It could easily compete with the mighty LS6 454 Chevy,440 Six-Pack Mopars and 428 Fords. However Pontiac out foxed themselves by being cute and grossly-under-rating the engine to slip by insurance companies. The Standard GTO engine ( which was basically the mild "Big Car" 400 that came in a Catalina, Gran Prix, etc ) was rated at 350 hp. The RAIII which had a hotter cam was rated at 366 hp. The RAIV was rated at 370 hp. Huh? You want me to believe that very special pistons, very special bigger heads,bigger exhaust,a bigger cam with a special valvetrain and a bigger intake is only worth 20 hp over a station wagon engine, and only worth 4 hp over the station wagon engine with a cam?? And you want me to pay $600 more on the window sticker for it??  In a Firebird the base engine was rated at 335 and the RAIV was only rated at 345!!!  No wonder they didn't sell. From 1984-86 Ford sold SVO Mustangs that had Recaro seats, 16" tires and wheels, 4-wheel disc brakes, and a Turbocharged 4-cylinder engine with between 175 and 205 hp depending on year. The buff magazines raved. However-the "5.0" V8 models were both faster and several thousand dollars cheaper, so the SVO's sold poorly. # 3. Poor, or no promotion by the factory. This always perplexed me. You engineer a cool-ass car that would sell like hot cakes-and you don't promote it. I'm a lifelong gearhead and I didn't know Buick Grand Nationals existed until I read a road test of one in Car Craft. GM and Buick never promoted the car. Same thing with the Supercharged Ford Lightning Pickups in the late '90's. I worked in a Pontiac Dealer and I didn't know that the 20th Anniversary T/A was going to have the vaunted GN Turbo engine instead of the usual Chevy V8's until I saw one on the lot!!  No Brochures, no magazine articles nothing!!  And the 2003-04 Mercury Marauder. Ford never promoted them.  Any how-hope that clears things up-there's many reasons why their aren't more 340 Six-Pack 'Cuda AARs, or Boss 351 Mustangs or W30 442s or whatever.  Mastermind