For the last time....People building clones doesn't affect the value of the "Real" thing....

Got into a heated debate with a couple of  "Just as it left the factory" types the other day. They were bitching that people building clones out of base models "ruins" the value of the real deal. Huh?  How?  "Explain to me" I said-"If that's true then how come a real 427 Shelby Cobra is still worth $400,000 when there's hundreds of thousands of kit car replicas out there from Factory Five and others?" "How come an original 426 Hemi powered '70 Challenger is still worth $150,000 when you can buy a Mopar Performance 426 Crate Hemi for 15 grand and stuff it in a 318 model that you bought for five grand? "  "If I buy a '69 Mustang Fastback and stuff in a Boss-Nine crate motor from Jon Kaase Racing, that's not going to hurt the guy who has a real Boss 429 that's worth $500,000!!"  How does the fake affect the real one in any way shape or form, except if anything make the real deal MORE valuable?" If I put a GMPP ZZ427 crate motor in a '69 Chevelle and paint it like a Yenko,or put a 454HO in a '73 Camaro and paint it like a Motion Phase III car, it doesn't make a real, documented Yenko or Motion car worth a penny less!!  Then they started in about people selling fakes as the real deal. Well I'm sure that some schysters have screwed a few people doing that-it's the stupid buyer's fault. Think-if I'm going to pay $50,000 or more for an LS6 Chevelle I'm going to make damn sure it's a real LS6 / SS454, not a Malibu that some clown dressed up like an SS and stuffed in a hotted-up 454 out of a '75 Suburban!!  If I'm buying a Ram Air IV Judge-I'm going to make double sure it's a real Judge and a real RAIV backed by an "OW" TH400, not a LeMans with an Endura bumper and an L78 400 and a TH350 out of a '77 Trans-Am!!  Wouldn't you?  And conversely-the clone route is the only way most of us can have something really cool. For example $15,000 will buy you a damn nice 289 / 4-speed '66 Mustang fastback. With help from Year One, and Tony Branda you can build a GT350 copy that you can't tell the difference from the real deal without checking serial numbers, and your total investment would be less than 25 grand. A fully restored original '65-66 Shelby GT350 will bring 100K easily. A Ram Air IV '69 Trans-Am was for sale on RK motors website for $399,000!!!  The also had a Ram Air III model that went for $109,000. 15 grand will buy you a decent 400 powered '69 Firebird. You can buy the hood, spoilers and trim from Year One or Ames performance. Edelbrock heads are patterned after the RAIV heads,and the Performer RPM cam has the same timing and lift as the RAIV cam. You can buy the aluminum RAIV / 455HO intake from Ames or NPD. Your total investment would be less than 25 grand. You can't touch a basket case "real" '69 T/A for 25K, that needs another 25 worth of work!!  For $15,000 you can buy a nice '69-70 Mustang fastback. Edelbrock has aluminum "Cleveland" style heads with the proper bolt pattern and water jackets to go on a 302 Windsor block and "E-Boss" intakes so you could build a clone "Boss 302" for about 20K total investment.  A "Real" Boss 302 will run you $80K on up. And when your running up through the gears and smoking the tires-will you be thinking about serial numbers?  If you buy the stencils from Phoenix Graphics and paint a '78 T/A like a "Macho T/A"-I seriously doubt that Dennis Mecham is going to sue you, or that anyone who owns one of the 203 "Real" 1978 DKM Machos is going to be distressed!!  Get over yourselves people!! Mastermind        

Some less than premium or "off year" models that can be a bargain....

If your willing to lower your sights a little you can still find some screaming deals. Here's several good examples. # 1. 1976-79 Pontiac Trans-Am / Firebird Formula 400. I see 1970-74 RAIII,RAIV, 455HO and SD-455 T/A's priced at 40, or 50 grand or more all the time. However-a Disco-era bird can be a screaming bargain. I saw on Trans-Am Specialties website the other day a 1978 400, 4-speed, WS6 T/A with 44,000 original miles for $17,950!!  They had a '79 Formula with 33,000 original miles for $22,000. These cars were mint and flawless. They had a rust-free driver quality 10th Anniversary T/A for $13,000. Do the math- only 3,196 T/A's were built in 1970, 2116 in '71, 1,286 in '72 ( the year of the UAW strike ) and 4,802 in '73. There were 46,000 T/A's built in 1976, 68,000 in '77, 93,000 in 78 and 117,000 in '79. The later ones are going to be way cheaper and with minimal work-intake, exhaust and an axle-ratio change on automatics-( 4-speeds usually have 3.23 or 3.42 gears, while the slushboxes have 2.56s ) they can equal or surpass the performance of the much pricier early models.  # 2. 1971-74 Dodge Charger. Everybody and his brother want' the "Dukes of Hazzard / Bullitt" '68-70 model. However they are scarce and pricey. You can buy a nice '71-74 model for what people want for a rust-bucket '68-70. Seriously-I saw an interview with the Stunt coordinator of the "Fast&Furious" movies and he said he paid $16,000 for a basket case '69 Charger they were going to wreck in "F&F 5". He said they paid over $30,000 for a decent one that was going to be the camera car with the fake blower. By contrast a buddy of mine bought a really nice 440 powered '73 model for $6,000. I saw a nice 383 powered '71 Super Bee model in Hemmings for $8,500. There's a lot of them with 383,400 or 440 cubes under the hood for bargain prices. 318 models are dirt-cheap-and you can swap in a storming 360 or a big-block. # 3. 1977-80  Camaro Z/28. No they don't have a fire-breathing LT1, but they do have a 350 V8 backed by a 4-speed or a TH350 and 3.08, 3.42 or 3.73 gears and F41 sport suspension very similar to the Pontiac Trans-Am. There's more speed equipment available for small-block Chevys and '70's F-bodies than anything else on the planet. # 4. 1971-73 Ford Mustang / Mercury Cougar. Everybody wants the '67-70 models, and the high prices reflect this. However-the '71-73 models are a screaming deal-and almost all of them have the venerable 351C for power.  # 5. 1967-68 Chevrolet Impala SS. People fight with with machetes for the 1962-66 models, yet these are largely overlooked. And their fairly plentiful-75,000 were built in 1967 and another 38,000 in 1968. 427 models command a King's ransom but 327 and 396 models can be bought relatively cheap.  Any of these cars make great drivers and cost less than half of their more sought after brothers.  Mastermind      

Don't want to risk grenading a numbers-matching engine? Try these "Junkyard Jewels"....

A lot of people want to race their musclecars, but are afraid of throwing a rod out the side of a numbers-matching block. So you have a badass machine that never sees the high side of 4,500 rpm because the owner is afraid of breaking it.  The way around this dilemna is to put your precious original engine in a plastic bag on an engine stand in your garage, and then build a second, stompin' one based on something you could care less about if you blow it up.  Here's several great examples. # 1. 1996-2001 "Vortec" 350 Chevy. These were used in millions of Chevy and GMC trucks, vans and SUVs, so theirs no shortage of them in junkyards. The bonus is the "Vortec" heads breathe better than any factory head and many aftermarket ones. Edelbrock, Weiand and Holley offer intake manifolds that are compatible with these heads, and the engines have roller cams from the factory. Super Chevy magazine built a 400 hp "Vortec" 350 for $2,600!!  A dynamite substitute for an L79 327 or L46, LT-1 or L82 350.  # 2. 1991-current 454 / 502 Chevy. There are millions of these in 3/4 ton Suburbans, Pickups and vans and even Avalanches. Hardcore drag racers snub them because they like the '90 and earlier MKIV-the MKV and MKVI's have hydraulic roller cams and a heavy valvetrain that doesn' like to rev over 6,000 rpm. If you want 700+ hp that's problem. But you can build a 500 hp 454 or 502 that has a glass-smooth idle and makes gobs of torque, and pulls hard to to about 5,800 rpm with out any valve float problems. When you've got 500 ft lbs of torque right off idle-you don't need to rev to 7 grand. And GMPP and Edelbrock make performance aluminum heads and roller cams for these engines. Truth be told-if you build one of these right-it will probably run just as quick or quicker than the L34, L35 or L78 396 or L72 427 or LS5 or LS6 454 that your trying to protect!!  # 3. 1992-2003 Dodge 360 "Magnum" V8. There are millions of these in Dodge Ram trucks, Dakotas, Durangos, and Jeep Grand Cherokees. The "Magnum" heads breathe better than any factory iron head and some aftermarket aluminum ones. Edelbrock makes 4bbl intakes for these engines. A hotted-up 360 Magnum would run circles around a stock 340-Mopar Performance sells a 360 Magnum crate motor that's rated at 390 hp and 460 lbs of torque. Quite a bit more than the 275 hp a 1970 340 made- and equal to the legendary 440 / Six-Pack.- but you don't need to spend the money on a crate motor you can build a nasty one cheaply-with a stroker crank to give you 408 inches-you can easily make more than the 425 hp of the mighty 426 Hemi. And if it blows up-go to the junkyard and raid another Cherokee for a replacement!!  # 4. 1985-97 Ford 302 / 351W. There are millions of these in junkyards in Ford trucks and vans. Ford SVT and Edelbrock and Trick Flow offer high-performance aluminum heads for these engines and there's stroker kits to turn a 302 into a 347 or even a 363, and kits to turn a 351 into a 392 or a 427. Edelbrock even offers "Cleveland" style heads and  "E-Boss" manifolds so you could build a clone "Boss" 302 or 351 if you wanted to. Think what a rocker a 427 inch "Boss" motor would be!!  That should make your Mustang, Torino, Fairlane or Cougar fly. # 5. 1961-76 Ford 390. There were tens of millions of these used in various Ford cars and trucks. Edelbrock makes aluminum heads for them and their "Performer RPM" package boasts 450+ hp. Magazine writers spout numbers flippantly-but 450 honest hp will turn any street car into a rocket. And they look identical to a 427 or 428 if your building a Thunderbolt or Shelby clone, or just don't want to risk blowing the 428 CJ in your Torino, Fairlane, or Mach 1. # 6. 1977-79 403 Olds V8. Although they were onlu used 3 years-there were millions of them put in Pontiac Firebirds and Trans-Ams,Catalinas and Bonnevilles,Buick Park Avenues and Electras, Olds 88s and 98s, and tons of big BOP wagons. Anything that fits a 350 Olds fits these-so hot rod parts are readily available-and 53 extra cubes in your Cutlass would make it a real sleeper. Edelbrock claims 397 hp and 400 lbs of torque from there "Performer RPM" package and that was on a 350 test mule. The 53 extra cubes would put hp in the 425 to 440 range-more than the 370 a vaunted "W30" 455 was rated at!!  #7. You'll notice there's no Pontiacs on this list. The reason is they've been out of production since 1978. And-with a few exceptions-389, 400, 428 and 455 Pontiacs were used in virtually every model. There's nothing special about them-and something like 15 million were produced from 1965-78. If you have a Ram Air IV 400, or a Super Duty 421 or 455 or a 455 HO, you know how rare it is, and you've probaly already gone to a junkyard and gotten a generic 400 block out of something to play with. So go build a mean motor and get to the strip.....Mastermind            

There is no "Used Car Factory".....You might have to "Settle" for something that's not "Exactly" what you want!!!

When you hear people lamenting that they've been searching for a car for five years, and can't find one-it's simply that there unrealistic. The chance of you finding a 40 year old car in the exact color you want with all the exact options is almost nil. You have a better chance of being struck by lightning. Every person I ever met that had this problem was way too picky. I know many people who passed up very cool cars in good condition at fair prices because it wasn't "Exactly what they were looking for".  Idiot #1 wanted a '68-70 GTO with the 400/ 4-speed powertrain. He passed on a gorgeous '68 model because it didn't have the hood tach and it didn't have disc brakes. He passed on a nice '69 Judge ( for $16,000!!?? ) because it was an automatic. He turned up his nose at a 455HO / 4-speed '71 LeMans Sport CONVERTIBLE done up in Judge style because it wasn't a "real" GTO. He also passed on a numbers matching, rust-free '70 model ( for $12,000!! ) because it had a 400 and a 3-speed stick. 3 years later-he's still "looking".  Idiot # 2. Wanted a '65-68 GT350 Shelby Mustang. He passed up a gorgeous 390 / 4-speed '67 Fastback done in "Bullitt" style right down to the green paint and Torq-Thrust Mags. When he passed on a slightly rough, but running and rust-free '66 GT equipped with the 225 hp 289, factory a/c, factory front disc brakes,the Pony interior, Rally-Pac guages, and the original "California Megaphone exhaust with date-coded mufflers intact ( for $2,500!!! ) because "Its still not a Shelby" I wanted to slap him. I'm not a Ford guy, and I bought the damn thing and sold it for a tidy profit a couple months later. Idiot # 3. Wanted a '68-70 Charger with a big-block. He passed on a '69 model with a rip-snorting 440 in it because the engine wasn't "Original". He passed up a gorgeous, low-mileage, one-owner '68 model because it had a two-barrel carb on the 383!!!  He also passed up an awesome 440 / 4-speed '70 Super Bee because it's "Not a Charger". # Idiot # 4 wanted a '70-72 LT-1 Corvette. He passed up a gorgeous blue '72 model because it had the LS5 454 / TH400 combo instead of the 350 / 4-speed LT1. He passed on a 70,000 mile unrestored but exceptionally well maintained L82 / 4-speed '74 model for $3,600!!!-because "It wasn't an LT1" and had the plastic bumpers instead of steel. Remember the Rolling Stones song- "You Can't Always Get What You Want"....But if you try sometime, you just might find, you get what you need...... Mastermind